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    How would you come off of TRT without PCT?

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      hcwilliams
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      I'm coming off TRT soon, and wanted to gauge the forum's thoughts. I do not want to use a PCT, as I have done that once and fucking hated it.

      I'm thinking peaty diet, panterstone, gonadin.. maybe androsterone? kuionone? Definitely vitamin E and B6 too.

      And other peaty supps as well like niacinamide, aspirin, B1, etc.

      What do you guys think?

      What's the timeline look like?

      (On Testosterone cypionate for 2 years, pct'd in may, went back on in june like a dumbass, been on 5 months since, going off in a week)

      5'11 15% BF, 21 years old (I know)

      Bloodwork is honestly fine and optimal for coming off. TSH <2, PTH Low, nothing stands out

      Helo?

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        jpegj0hn @hcwilliams
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        @hcwilliams how's your lutenizing hormone?

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          hcwilliams @hcwilliams
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          @hcwilliams Well its at zero, because I am suppressed.

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            hcwilliams
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            Since speaking with Danny himself, I think thyroid would be the best application in restoring testosterone levels and gonadotropins. I will add 100mg pregnenolone and 5mg DHEA per Ray. I might try some idea labs products down the road as well. Still Peaty diet, Vitamin A,D,E,K, B6, Magnesium, some Taurine. Also BCAAs with meals to limit tryptophan.

            Been 5 days since last injection. E2 and serotonin notably still high.

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              jamezb46 @hcwilliams
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              @hcwilliams You could try tribulus terrestris. It is known to decrease elevated prolactin, increase DHT levels and does not raise estrogen.

              Perhaps also look into stronger dopamine agonists/serotonin antagonists such as the beta cabergolines or their derivatives such as lisuride, 9 me-bc, bromocriptine.

              To get estrogen under control I think androsterone is a good option.

              In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                Kvirion @hcwilliams
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                @hcwilliams said in How would you come off of TRT without PCT?:

                Sounds good.

                Been 5 days since last injection. E2 and serotonin notably still high.

                I would also add some Aspirin (plus K2-mk4) to the mix, which should help lower serotonin and E2 levels. And also "refresh the pipes"... 😉

                More about it: https://testonation.com/2023/05/22/aspirin-on-testosterone-dopamine-and-sexual-function/

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