What do you guys think of Trump now that he won
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@Rah1woot I am going to continue to derail this thread with discussion of Islamic esoterica. For the last time. Next up will probably be a separate thread.
I think all of it is related to Materialism. Especially if we take Julian Jaynes' conclusions in Origin of Consciousness to be correct.
I found a small confirmation of this view in this blogpost from a Russian Orthodox monk who converted to Islam:
https://www.honeyfromparadise.com/from-moscow-to-mecca-preparing-for-umrah/
It is not a secret that there is disunity in Islam, also. There is disunity anywhere there is more than one person. (And truth be told, there’s often disunity within one’s self!) It’s just human nature. But having said that… The core of Islam has held up remarkably well. The essential beliefs are all there among different Muslim groups — Sunni, Shia, or what have you. ‘lā ʾilāha ʾillā -llāh, ‘muḥammadun rasūlu llāh. “There is no god but God, and Muhammad is His prophet.” The shahada. The ONE faith. Islam. The sharp clarity of the profession of the Muslim faith. Reflecting on it calls to mind the words of Ernst Jünger:
Why is Islam, even without telescopes, so much closer to infinity? One has the impression that only a thin veil separates the worlds. [La ilaha illa Allah] is the formula, the steadfast pillar on which they rest. And the (Muslim) mind has sharpness because it sharpens its teeth at this diamond.This Oneness. “La ilaha illa Allah! La ilaha illa Allah! La ilaha illa Allah! La ilaha illa Allah!…” In groups of invocations, in private, into the sacred stillness of the night, Muslims around the world chant this invocation of God. All of us returning to that One. Al-Haqq, or ‘the Real’, as the Sufi tradition loves to refer to Allah.
A bonus. Brand-new publication on the aliveness of Mitochondria.
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@gg12
He invested in Gates-funded GAVI for vaccines and Monsanto pesticide producer, also he approved the deal Monsanto-Bayer, I don't know why they needed his approval though.
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/vaccine-bait-switch-millions-pulled-from-who-trump-gives-billions-gates-founded-gavi/
https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/31/3-surprisingly-controversial-stocks-in-donald-trum.aspx
https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/31/3-surprisingly-controversial-stocks-in-donald-trum.aspxHe appears in the Illuminati card game 1995, as the Charismatic leader where he's seen as a public figure talking to an audience. Another card called "Enough is enough", where you could see the bullet getting through him. This saying was used by Trump plenty of times and even appeared in the newspaper with it after getting shot.
The game was created by one guy who supposedly hacked the CIA and found out their plan, but I have no source for this. It's true though that the company got raided and went bankrupt.
He was a friend of Jeffrey Epstein and most probably other pedophiles.
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@gg12
In an interview, from September 2004, Stern asks Trump if he can call Ivanka "a piece of ass," to which Trump responds in the affirmative.
"My daughter is beautiful, Ivanka," says Trump.
"By the way, your daughter," says Stern.
"She's beautiful," responds Trump.
"Can I say this? A piece of ass," Stern responds.
"Yeah," says Trump. [Emphasis added.]
Youtube VideoThe other video got deleted.
And look at the photos.
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@gg12
From the link The Guardian:
Teen models, powerful men and private dinners: when Trump hosted Look of the Year
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year
"Three decades on, a very different picture of the competition is beginning to emerge. Over the last six months, the Guardian has spoken to several dozen former Look of the Year contestants, as well as industry insiders, and obtained 12 hours of previously unseen, behind-the-scenes footage. The stories we have heard suggest that Casablancas, and some of the men in his orbit, used the contest to engage in sexual relationships with vulnerable young models. Some of these allegations amount to sexual harassment, abuse or exploitation of teenage girls; others are more accurately described as rape." -
@gg12
In the end Trump is a puppet for the ones above him and a pedophile like all his friends. He is not the good guy and neither wants to switch sides. He is disguised as the good guy in order to give false hope to the public and keep believing the lies of the system.
Europe is the same, so relax. -
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So the ones that voted Kamala are no different. Just voting makes you stupid. -
@Androsclerozat said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:
puppet
Maybe a shop mechanic and a barber has a heartstring all along. To mind attitude and carry on probably doesn't put anyone at a loss if they're something resembling euthyroid and partial to poetry.
(I'm not appeasing gross allegations. But I wouldn't throw in the towel on a rumour mill either.)
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The "Mockingbirds" are about to become extinct. No more deep state 4 AM talking points. We will be free at last.
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@Sippy said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:
@Androsclerozat +1
https://healthimpactnews.com/2024/trump-supporters-in-panic-mode-let-the-censorship-and-revision-of-history-begin-to-serve-king-trump/She will have little to nothing to do with setting policy. She will be supervising the staff. She did great as Trump's Florida campaign manager in 2016. Trump also chose her as CEO to manage his Save America PAC in 2021. She also worked for Reagan so she can't be all bad. Because of the stranglehold the cabal has had on us for the past 5 decades or more, Trump is hard pressed to find a "purist." (I left the Christian right for that very reason. TDS isn't exclusive to liberals. They wouldn't know a winning strategy if it bit them on the hindquarters.) Trump had to play the game too. Not everyone was willing or able to buck the establishment. Look at what happened to General Flynn, Steve Bannon and others. I get that some haven't yet figured out this 5D chess game, but maybe now would be a good time to get up to speed.
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I do like your point about purity fetishism. It is a limiting factor on a lot of political thought today.
Nonetheless, demanding a "5D Chess" interpretation feels like a synonym for "mental gymnastics".
I would be shocked if Trump did something other than continuing to develop the metastatic cancer of the American systems' various capital sinkholes at the expense of the health and sanity of most of the humans there. It would be nice to be proven wrong but I expect not to be.
Your points to otherwise are largely rhetorical instead of analytical. And so they seem incorrect.
He may even grant some concessions and improve life in some fringe ways, conditional on something like war with Iran, that ultimately works as Iraq did to lower trust and living standards once again. As has been the playbook of his type for about 100 years now.
In either case, "the fire rises". Staying aware, conscious, while not abstracting away your particular existence, will be the most important thing.
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@Rah1woot Keep in mind that there were no wars during Trump's first term. We had 4 years of peace.
Where is the rhetoric and I will try to elaborate, but it will be difficult to condense 8 years and thousands of hours of research into a few paragraphs.
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@S-Holmes said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:
Keep in mind that there were no wars during Trump's first term. We had 4 years of peace.
I don't think this is true. There is ongoing drone warfare...Somalia, Yemen, probably Syria, Iran. Obviously all of our billions that go to Israel directly fund their wars on Palestine and elsewhere.
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@S-Holmes said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:
there were no wars during Trump's first term.
You meant "no new wars"
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@Androsclerozat Yes, let me rephrase.
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@S-Holmes Yes, but he continued the ones that he had. Maybe he had enough? This still makes him a criminal.
