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    • MauritioM Offline
      Mauritio
      last edited by Mauritio

      What is going on with Chia seeds ??

      Randomly stumbled upon this.
      A casual 7x increase in testosterone while it decimates prolactin. Not bad.

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      https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11250-025-04391-x


      In this study it restored testosterone and thyroid hormones that were suppressed from heavy metal exposure. Also increases antioxidants quite strongly.

      It has a pretty high polyphenol content (see image above)

      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10817305/#sec3-life-14-00109


      In this study in female animals it increased Progesterone and LH significantly.
      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0040816623001441


      Chia seeds arevery high in PUFA, especially Omega 3s . So not sure how they help so much with hormones, since PUFA usually is anti-androgenic.
      Maybe it's a short term effect ?
      Maybe Chia seeds help with transit and reduce gut inflammation ?


      In this study after thyroidectomy, Chia seeds extract was given.
      It completely restored thyroid hormones, testosterone and sperm parameters. Also lowered MDA, and increased antioxidants.
      https://arccjournals.com/journal/asian-journal-of-dairy-and-food-research/DRF-413

      Dare to think.

      My X:
      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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      • alfredoolivasA Offline
        alfredoolivas @Mauritio
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        @Mauritio a distinction is its powder. I don’t think the seeds are digested and stay intact. Awesome find regardless

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        • MauritioM Offline
          Mauritio @alfredoolivas
          last edited by

          @alfredoolivas
          Nice catch, this might be important. So it's actually something in the seeds, not the laxative effect.

          Just saw you can also buy Chia seeds as powder.

          Dare to think.

          My X:
          x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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          • MauritioM Offline
            Mauritio
            last edited by Mauritio

            Plant Pregnenolone

            The Malaysian plant Holarrhena curtisii contains actual pregnenolone. Its properties also sound somewhat anti-serotonergic.

            Screenshot 2026-07-10 20.11.08.png
            https://www.researchgate.net/publication/278103906_Pregnenolone_from_the_Roots_of_Holarrhena_curtisii


            It also contains alkaloids with steroidal activity
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9834146/


            Another alkaloid from the same genus can convert into Pregnenolone in vivo
            https://www.researchgate.net/publication/248216582_In_vivo_conversion_of_a_steroidal_alkaloid_holaphyllamine_to_pregnenolone


            This paper shows that plants con convert steroids into each other and contain different ratios of known steroids.

            Digitalis grandiflora for example contains pregnenolone, progesterone, 17α-hydroxypregnenolone, DHEA, and testosterone

            https://pure.mpg.de/rest/items/item_3524574_6/component/file_3528676/content


            Holarrhena pubescens another plant from the same genus has anti malarial effects, which rely on the pregnene-type steroidal alkaloids
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29172699/

            Interesting effects of Holarrhena pubescens on diabetes, also anti-microbial and anti-inflammatory
            https://www.mdpi.com/2218-273X/10/9/1341#

            Conessine, a steroidal alkaloid from Holarrhena pubescens has antiviral, antiplasmodial, anti-inflammatory, and neuroprotective effects.
            https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6496801

            Conessine is a histamine H3-antagonist
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26924015/

            Dare to think.

            My X:
            x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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            • MauritioM Offline
              Mauritio
              last edited by

              Hormones activate one of the bitter Taste receptors.

              ". androsterone, dehydroepiandrosterone, and dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate with 0.1 µM and adrenosterone as well as pregnenolone with 0.3 µM, respectively, showed threshold concentrations in the submicromolar range."

              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12915477/#nyas70172-sec-0080

              Dare to think.

              My X:
              x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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              • alfredoolivasA Offline
                alfredoolivas @Mauritio
                last edited by

                @Mauritio they taste awful unless dissolved in tocopherol lol

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                  • MossyM Offline
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                    That is interesting about Chia seeds. Especially from a Peat perspective. (Or maybe I should say from my novice understanding of Peat.) Anything with seeds I've avoided since learning of Peat.

                    Could the powder of a Chia seed even be different from simply grinding the seeds?

                    "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                    "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                    • MauritioM Offline
                      Mauritio @Mossy
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                      @Mossy Peat even said he can't see any value whatsoever in chia seeds, which is weird because they contain a lot of polyphenols, fiber and minerals, so there is at least some nutritional value there.

                      And he said if someone feels better from them it's probably the laxative effect, which is more or less ruled out in the above study.

                      So I still dont understand how it has these effects.
                      And it doesnt seem to be just the grounded seeds. There's another study I posted which used chia seed extract, which was very beneficial as well.
                      And IIRC another one used whole chia seeds.

                      I think the powder and grounded seeds should be very similar. Unless the powder is somehow defattened. But suppose they would state that.

                      There was a thread on here recently that Omega 3s are essential and you need them for certain things. Ive only skimmed it, but maybe it has something to do with that.

                      So following the true method of knowledge I will order some grounded chia seeds and see for myself.

                      Dare to think.

                      My X:
                      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                      • MossyM Offline
                        Mossy @Mauritio
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                        @Mauritio Appreciate your thoroughness. It will be interesting to see what effect they have on you. I don't like the taste and feel of chia seeds, but maybe they could be used as a food supplement, like I do with liver.

                        "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                        "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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