Pro Metabolic Substances Tier List

[wester130]

is cordyceps mushroom in this tier list?

[alfredoolivas]

@wester130 no sorry, is it good have you tried it?

[wester130]

@alfredoolivas a lot of good things written about it, it increases ATP

https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/cordyceps-militaris-fruit-body-extract-increases-testosterone-and-dht-secretion.38047/

[sunsunsun]

@wester130 ive given it to my dog because I heard it is good for lungs and she was recovering from pneumonia, it seemed benign at least. might actually start her on it again cause it seemed ok

[alfredoolivas]

@sunsunsun hope she’s okay

[sunsunsun]

@alfredoolivas she's snoring xD

[alfredoolivas]

@sunsunsun cute!!!

[Milk Destroyer]

I'm recently wanting to try more of Haidut's products. I'm thinking of trying Energin, Estroban (topically) and CortiNon. I see you rated Energin quite low, did you not notice much from it?

You rated Lisuride highly, it was the first product I ever bought from IdealLabs but I have never noticed an effect from it. What sort of dose do I need to use to get something out of it?

[wester130]

@Milk-Destroyer i think about 1/4 teaspoon of high quality cistanche powder would be better than pregnenolone/dhea

[alfredoolivas]

@Milk-Destroyer I only noticed Lisuridess effects in doses of 800mcg orally. DA agonists don’t really produce the classic stimulant or dopaminergic feeling as they aren’t excitatory and the opposite effect happens; they are calming and can reduce adrenaline.

Yeah I don’t feel anything from B vitamins, energin is quite a standard dose of every one, though, it contains the most potent forms.

I wouldn’t apply any oily products topically, their formulations stand out when taken orally (vitamin E enhances absorption and may bipass liver)

[alfredoolivas]

@wester130 probably for many yeah