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    • NangaParbatN
      NangaParbat @eric
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      @eric So what? Schizophrenia still has biochemical causes, it doesn't just spring out of nowhere. There is no clock inside of a baby counting down until it's time for schizophrenia.

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      • coconutC
        coconut
        last edited by coconut

        i have a friend diagnosed with schizophrenia who hasnt had any psychotic episodes since changing his diet a few years ago. taking all those supplements with any nutritional deficiencies would probably be catastrophic for most people even if it was just chronically irritating his intestines and lowering his blood sugar. just taking the tyronene without enough carbs could cause something like this.

        i wouldn't discourage him from the path he is on, he just tried to take a shortcut with bulgarian research chemicals, i have done the same thing. he will probably realize at some point he needs to focuses on the basics (diet, blood sugar, gut, thyroid) and be patient.

        definitely should not smoke weed or drink if he has a tendency towards psychosis.

        your brother can recover from this though, 24 is young. my "schizophrenic" friend has really interesting perspectives on life and is one of my favorite people to talk to.

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        • HarlockH
          Harlock
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          Sorry to hear that. Combine THC and Metergolin is definitly not something you want to do. Or even THC + Cyproheptadine. Playing with hormones and GABA and Dopamin agonist is not something to take like a game especially after 3 months of "peating". I would consider first stopping everything, and then start to only work in increasing metabolism step by step and not try to combine all these tools when you don't know what you are taking. These products are supposed to be for research only and if someone use them for himself he must know what he is using, why, when in which dosage.

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            yeehawyinzer
            last edited by

            What was his diet?

            Did he have a lot of energy drinks and if so which ones?

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            • M
              mnemosyne
              last edited by mnemosyne

              It’s def the mix of all those things at once. I’d recommend looking into Maurice Cotterell’s work. We’re approaching solar maximum and that can really induce some unpleasant changes if the body isn’t capable of adapting and diet and environment aren’t supportive.

              In online esoteric circles it’s talked about as spoantaneous kundalini. Itzhak Bentov studied it and explained about it in his book Stalking the Wild Pendulum. Physio-kundalini syndrome.

              People experiencing this are stuck between different levels of reality and their nervous system isn’t capable of filtering out things and translating it into helpful information.
              Bentov and other great minds learned to balance it.
              Julian Jaynes is also an excellent read on schizophrenia and brain hemisphere cooperation. Iain McGilchrist for a more contemporary cultural context.

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                AstralPMP
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                Sorry to hear this has happened. I know from watching friends and family members who have gone through this that it is very difficult for all involved.

                THC by itself may have caused this. It is responsible for more trips to the psych ward than any other drug by a wide margin. THC gummies are notorious for improper labeling. We don't know if he was having the equivalent of a "beer after work" or if he was on a major bender. Him being in his early-to-mid 20s with a history of drug use (family history of mental illness?) makes him a statistic when it comes to schizophrenia diagnoses.

                The less bad news is that it sounds from your post like your brother's experimentation with his serotonin status pushed him over the edge. This means he can likely recover fully given a proper recovery protocol. To any Bulgarians-in-waiting, you need to be a Level 5 Peater before your stack gets that big.

                Practically speaking, has your brother been diagnosed as schizophrenic or with anything in particular? This impacts what public or hospital resources might be available to you/him. Healthcare "practitioners" can't help you through the bureaucracy. If a social worker is involved, he or she is a great person to ask about what you can do as a family. I mention this because the emotional strain on family relationships is severe in cases like this and because your brother will one day soon be off of whatever wild meds they have him on now and coming off of those is hard. The trick right now may be to find him treatment/ a place to stay until he can get medical assistance, since he has no income.

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                  randomname
                  last edited by

                  Hey, this is exactly what's happening to me after I did THC and had an episode of serotonin syndrome and psychosis a year ago. I've been having symptoms of schizophrenia on and off for the past months. if anybody has a suggestion as to what could be beneficial I would appreciate it.

                  I did a post detailing more information here

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                    Corngold @brotherwentcrazy
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                    @brotherwentcrazy said in Brother is having month-long psychotic episode after "Peating":

                    THC

                    This is the main one I would be worried about. Gummies are probably not pure, and mixed with other chemicals. I've read other tragic or bad stories about gummies and vapes so I would suspect this mainly.

                    Though obviously all of those other supplements are just as questionable. I know I've read schizophrenia can be "switched on" genetically in late teens / early 20s given stressful experiences / environment, etc. THC can also trip this genetic trigger. The additional supplements were probably interacting with this drug in some way.

                    Taking too much Benadryl is a cheap "trip" that leads to bizarre hallucinations and fear. Sleeping pills like ambien are powerful alone or mixed with alcohol.

                    @brotherwentcrazy
                    Sorry to hear this sad story, hopefully there is a smart doctor and a kind therapist to help.

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                    • rzeroR
                      rzero
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                      I know two people who had schizophrenic breaks during heavy marijuana use in their mid-20s.

                      I lost touch with one. It's twenty years later for the other, and he becomes seemingly normal if he can't get a hold of marijuana for several months at a time, but he refuses to quit, so he stays schizo and functionally disabled.

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                      • cs3000C
                        cs3000 @brotherwentcrazy
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                        @brotherwentcrazy
                        relevant thread https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/6398/psychosis-and-serotonins-5ht2a-receptor-hdac-and-chronic-anti-psychotic-use/4?_=1750496348424

                        "world," as a source of new perceptions
                        more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                        "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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