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    • Milk DestroyerM
      Milk Destroyer
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      Posting as a cautionary tale.
      2 years ago, I was consuming LOTS of redbulls and haribos for convenience. I changed jobs, got stricter with diet and stopped consuming them. Avoided all industrial ascorbic and citric acid.

      Fast forward to a few months ago. I had a few redbulls at work. Woke up next morning at 2am, forced awake, unable to breathe. Felt extremely uncomfortable, coughing when I breathed in, like my lungs were destroyed.
      I chalked this down to staying out in the sun way too long at beginning of summer.

      Then it happened again, but with haribos. Went camping and had 2 big bags of haribos for convenience whilst walking around. Woke up in the tent that night, same struggling to breathe.

      Both times I consumed more than the average serving of these products. The suffocation effect wore off around 9 hours after kicking in.

      I've since not tried anything with citric acid on the ingredients list, but I have been drinking orange juice normally with no ill symptoms. It seems I developed this severe allergy to the black mould citric acid after spamming way too much of it in the past. Be mindful how much you eat.

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      • LucHL
        LucH @Milk Destroyer
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        @Milk-Destroyer said in Developed severe citric acid allergy:

        It seems I developed this severe allergy to the black mould citric acid after spamming way too much of it in the past.

        Thanks for posting.
        Another possibility is that ascorbic acid used in the product is a fake one.
        Mind the origin of your source. Mine is the Scottish one.

        Excerpt:
        Ray Peat has said since long that ascorbic acid quality is no longer the same. We talk here about the right Cas Number 50-81-7, specific optical rotation between 20.5 and 21.5°C.
        The way to produce it is the problem. I choose the Scottish label, not the Chinese one (which is supposed to be allright up to now): Vitamin C (Quali®-C Ascorbic Acid) 250g
        Below we have an example with citric acid with deviant ways of production.
        https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t1866-infos-sante-divers-sce-2#29018
        NB: No need to go and read (except if you want details).
        Haidut posted a warning: it was discovered that it (ascorbic acid) can be more cheaply produced through extraction from a mold organism (Aspergillus Niger), which is highly pathogenic and can cause severe infections in humans.

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        • yerragY
          yerrag @Milk Destroyer
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          @Milk-Destroyer

          I wonder if you had taken an antibiotic close to the time you took citric acid or citric acid-containing substance.

          I'm not sure which antibiotic I took at that time, whether it's erithromycin or tetracycline, but it's one which would cause bacteria into cell wall deficient bacteria, and in combination with citric acid, would lead to growth of microbes closer to fungal forms. But it made me very sick and I had to use my own protocol of Carbogen and turpentine and artemisia annual tincture to counter it. It was successful but it was luck that this protocol worked. But at that time, I didn't want to check into an ER because a worse outcome would be likely during the COVID hoaxing years.

          Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
          engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
          wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
          the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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