Why is the Ray Peat community so far right?
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in Why is the Ray Peat community so far right?:
I am on the top-right corner of the political spectrum.
Yeah, there are some people with extreme (dialectical, contextual, scientific) wisdom following the epistemic uncertainty principle and there are others with extremely strong (political) convictions...
And obviously, there are most of the people in between with a mix of both aforementioned attitudes.
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@Peatly said in Why is the Ray Peat community so far right?:
Since learning how the powers that be play all sides to service the interests of corporations, and the families that own them, I no longer believe in the left vs. right paradigm (not that anyone can give a satisfactory definition of either positions).
Ray gives an explanation how FDR was just protecting his class by punishing the billionaires of the country slightly, to suppress the inevitable CLASS revolution and then got murdered by the Nazi founder of the CIA and what you come away with is 'political distinctions don't exist'. Interesting, It seems more like there exist benevolent Marxists and malevolent ones, but they all adhere to reality as accurately described by Marx. When you quote such a thing keep in mind Ray's own poltical position.
Right-wing politics have never existed. they don't have theory, they don't believe anything and are, for the most part, very stupid. Left-wing politics has a bunch of theory, a lot of it derivative or reactionary but it is Marx, Engels and Lenin who are the foundation of a genuinely revolutionary position (aka left wing politics, the idea of changing something, a term stemming from the french revolution). Two people Ray looked up to, for good reason.
Saying 'you don't believe in left or right' is sort of a meaningless phrase unless, like Ray, you're a genuine Marxist that supported the zenith of the USSR under Stalin, then I get why you would say it, although even then I think Ray was a tiny bit misguided in saying it (you won't hear me say this a lot)
Anyway not to dismiss your contribution.
btw how funny is it that all the supposedly 'right-wing' Yank retatrds in the thread are too scared to even say anything except 'peee pee poo poo'. mentally underdeveloped
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@Love_The_Blacks said in Why is the Ray Peat community so far right?:
@Peatly I genuinely cannot wait for when we inevitably win so we can just deport all the leftists and their orcs back to Mordor (the third world).
This society where we uphold the sick, broke, resentful, weak, old and COWARDLY to the detriment of the STRONG and BEAUTIFUL cannot end soon enough.
I don't like paying half of my paycheck so that Shaniqua can get her gibs
Interesting – what exactly are you winning?
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@CO3 I don’t base my statement on anything Ray said – my position is one of realising (during the plandemic) that it doesn’t matter which political party you vote for the outcome is likely to be the same. Perhaps years ago there was some distinction between the left and the right – that has changed. All the culture wars are designed to keep us fighting amongst ourselves. Ultimately, their goal is towards one world governance.
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@Peatly by attaining power and within a fortnight bringing things back to the way nature intended them to be.
The right is Bukele cleaning up El Salvador in 1 month and being beloved by his people.
The Left is Stalin exterminating entire classes of people hoping that a utopia would henceforth be ushered in.
Leftists need theory and endless mental masturbation to cope with and explain away why they keep fucking everything up in horrible and novel ways no one ever thought possible outside a science fiction novel.
Before you bring up the holocaust and ascribe the gas chamber as the inevitable and logical end-state of "reactionary politics" think about what type of politics opened up pandora's box by trying to literally eliminate entire classes and groups of people first. (It was the Left!)
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@Love_The_Blacks said in Why is the Ray Peat community so far right?:
The same Nayib Bukele, one of the young global leaders of the WEF?
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@Peatly I'm not a neurotic conspiracy brained peasant who sees messages in his soup. I could care less if our president was a Jewish WEF chairman as long as he deported all the migrants and got our country back on track.
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@Love_The_Blacks What class of people did Stalin exterminate? Stalin was the most democratic leader to have ever existed, and liberated all classes. I assume you have no knowledge whatsoever about history, but please elucidate what classes of people Stalin exterminated. He did quite a bit more than arrest criminals, you as likely a Yank - judging by the stupidity - could not even conceptualize how much Lenin and him ''cleaned up the country''.
As for the assertion that "being stupid tools of the ruling class with no theoretical foundation is good ackshually":
if all you can do in terms of political agitation is fanboy over some elected politician that - get this - ARRESTS CRIMINALS (literally dickriding because one of their groomed little dogs finally did one aspect of his job a little) then you are hopeless worms.
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@CO3 I'll respond to this tonight in full, but the intellectual cope here is funny.
The Kulaks (which was a very loosely defined term in practice, while maybe not-so in theory) of Western Ukraine, an area I've been intimately familiar with since well before this "war."
Not to mention Заячий (Zayachai) island whose people surrendered but were deemed to unruly and inherently counter-revolutionary.
The Left in it's current incarnation is a force of evil. Not everyone can PEAT their way towards becoming competent enough to rule even themselves, never mind others. Leaders have always existed and always will. I understand what you wrote as more anti-natural coping from a leftist.
Are you familiar with elite theory at all?
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@Love_The_Blacks zayachai island was Lenin, point still stands
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The Kulaks? That's an insane thing to claim, never seen anyone say Stalin killed every single land-owning peasant. There was surely a struggle with the petty bourgeois peasantry. It's to be expected if you understand history. Many were trying to starve out the revolution, and they were rightfully repressed for that.
But tell me how can you give voting rights back to a group that you murdered? Do you walk up to the corpses and say 'you can vote now.'? Why would you do that?
Заячий would be transliterated as Zayachiy btw, but I don't know what you're even attempting there. Just call it Hare Island. I speak Russian and I would never think of throwing in the original Russian into a conversation - let alone then needlessly and incorrectly transliterating one part of the place name - especially when the name has a very simple translation.
Stalin also was not in power then AT ALL. Are you fucking stupid or something?
Even though the level of idiocy here barely warrants a response beyond throwing you a stick and saying "Go fetch!":
There were bodies there. It's called a Revolution. You sure are a pussy if you think they should have just convinced and hugged all of their enemies.As for "elite theory", what's the point of bringing it up if you're not gonna argue it? what should i say? Ok. it exists. I guess
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Just a tad to the right of center is where people achieve, they enjoy the fruits of their labor, they're tough on crime, they care for others (family first), and typically believe in a creator that they are ultimately accountable to.
Extreme right and exteme left are two sides of the same coin and where humans lose their rights, and societies and cultures break down.
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Europa... mind blowing. I just THOUGHT I knew history. https://www.bitchute.com/playlist/LfROR65h9rJQ/
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@CO3 I grew up in Lviv u fake slav, if you do speak russian upload a picture of your short squat subhuman 5'4" face u caucus mountain incel.
There was 100% a genocide of "Ukrainian" Kulaks just like those same Ukrainians then tried to then genocide my mothers side (Polish, from Western Ukraine also). I texted my uncle the name of hare island he texted me back the russian word, i copy and pasted. Did cyrillic scare u?
You're clearly arguing in bad faith. You're a troll, and I hope one of those niggers you leftists love so much and like to keep as pets turns on you because of a 2% reduction in their gibs.
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@S-Holmes without property rights and the promise of getting to keep what you produce why not just stay home and jerk off all day or joing a crime syndicate? It would take millenia of harsh eugenics to make everyone kumbaya enough to be okay with the nursing home like life that leftists envision. I hate these people.
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@Love_The_Blacks as much as I think you're generally insane, I agree with everything you've said.
@CO3 maybe open a thread asking if you can peat away mental retardation?
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@Aryan_Racist lol I used to be really insane until my mid 20s. I have a big looks halo tbh (used to be a well-paid male model) so I could get away with it.
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You don't even speak your native language? Wow, that's so sad....
It's ЗаячИй. Транслитерация такая: -i-.Следовательно, так: Zayachiy. Google it, dummy!
Your uncle is wrong. And in the future try to stick to what you know, although you wouldn't have much to write so I understand the need to try to sound smarter and ask for Uncle Reinforcements for a forum thread.. so funny. Everytime I argue with anyone about this topic they just completely collapse in five seconds.
I learned Russian and I'm not Slavic. No point in using big words like 'learn' with you though.
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@Aryan_Racist You're not gonna argue any points are you? All of you are mentally so weak!! The fact that you guys are the ones into 'eugenics' is beyond funny. The world is beautiful in that way.