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    • yerragY
      yerrag @ilovethesea
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      @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

      I think this Thor Torrens person is an agent assigned to popularize the “low vitamin A/anti-Peat” project. Has anyone found the viral video this guy is referring to?

      Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.55.56 PM copy.png

      Also look at his Twitter bio... special assistant to POTUS? Emmy winner?

      Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.53.26 PM copy.png

      Same asshole energy as Garrett Smith what a surprise

      Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.46.45 PM copy.png

      Jocks with some science to sell.

      Buying- the desperate already hooked on Fentanyl with some to spare. Muscles and guns give the sellers street cred.

      Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
      engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
      wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
      the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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      • yerragY
        yerrag @Mulloch94
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        @Mulloch94 said in New "Mission" of RPF:

        @C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:

        Let's just say I've been on both sides of the Israel issue

        What do you mean by this? Are you just talking about the most recent events? Because Israel and Palestine have been going at it for a long time. I think this is really more of a divider on the American right than anywhere else. Most people on the left (outside of corporate democrats) stand pretty much in solidarity with Palestine. I'll refrain from giving my personal views on it as well, but lets just say, insufferable pricks like Ben Shapiro routinely like to weaponize their Jewish status as a means for identifying and calling out antisemitism .When in reality, more times than not, the people charged with antisemitism were usually just being critical of vulgar Israeli nationalism and human rights violations.

        For the Holy Week, if I were Jesus, I would recommend to you this recent history of the Church, following the victory of the Jews over the church Jesus Christ established in WWIi:

        https://www.unz.com/article/the-smoke-of-the-synagogue/

        This article shows the height and depth of what the Jewish controllers and masters would do to infiltrate the head of the snake, the papacy. It would not be surprising for a revised history of WWII be written by Jew financier- financed rewriting of recent history, further making the Catholic Church a church that acted as a willful collaborator in the fictional Holocaust. As more Catholics leave this church for the "anti-religion (in words and not by reality of deed, as seen in how much of a religion it is to revere Jewry as the chosen people leading them to unknowingly, at least initially, be led by the pied piper of Christian Zionism)" and direct to Jesus evangelical churches, the more Israel and Zionist loving Christianity becomes to such extent that if possible at all, and if the rabbis permit (which would not be the first time) Christian conversion to Jewry.

        Already, my fervently Catholic sister practices the seder, a Jewish meal to commemorate the Passover, and I don't even know if evangelicals do this as well.

        But as Singaporeans would say "same same la." Both Catholics and Evangelicals have now more in common than before, in their converging view on Jews as being the chosen, and with that, a unity or a singularity is forming, as shaped by the ever growing strength and power and riches of tptb Talmudist and Zionist Jew financiers.

        How one of the most anti-establishment personage in Jesus would become the most useful after death, spanning two millennia and more, in solidifying the establishment's hold on mankind- is something to both be marveled at and to despise to the fiber of our being. If we are astute enough to recognize this.

        How this eventual reshaping and misshaping of noble intent was done is the blueprint for how modern day anti-establishment reformists and idealists and their ideas are being used to recapture our minds to blend in to the establishment's control of it. The more dependent we are on marching to their tune, the more safely ensconced they are in their absolute control of power. And the more power they have, the more abuse they can impose on us with impunity.

        I think the undergoing project of tearing Ray Peat apart is a sub-cultural encapsulation of the general culture I described. To sum it best, it is nothing as simple as a rinse, wash, and repeat cycle played on the health and medical stage.

        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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        • BioEclecticB
          BioEclectic @Amazoniac
          last edited by BioEclectic

          @Amazoniac
          I had only doublechecked a valuable page or two that i knew had been archived, the pages were there. I then commented here about archiving in general, then a day or so later my saved archive links came up empty. This is using the waybackmachine of course, i can't speak for other archive methods.

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          • yerragY
            yerrag @BioEclectic
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            @BioEclectic

            A practice since time immemorial.

            Modernized, but less incendiary both physically and less viscerally felt.

            To allow history to keep repeating itself with the same tried and true methods of imprisoning us without our knowledge nor consent.

            Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
            engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
            wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
            the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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            • Hando-JinH
              Hando-Jin @yerrag
              last edited by Hando-Jin

              @yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

              @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

              I think this Thor Torrens person is an agent assigned to popularize the “low vitamin A/anti-Peat” project. Has anyone found the viral video this guy is referring to?

              Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.55.56 PM copy.png

              Also look at his Twitter bio... special assistant to POTUS? Emmy winner?

              Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.53.26 PM copy.png

              Same asshole energy as Garrett Smith what a surprise

              Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.46.45 PM copy.png

              Jocks with some science to sell.

              Buying- the desperate already hooked on Fentanyl with some to spare. Muscles and guns give the sellers street cred.

              looks like a dead-eyed psychopath

              "How about we stand on south beach with our shirts off and ask all the women who walk by who has better eyes me or you"

              the alpha king who thinks female validation is the ultimate metric

              I suspect he doesn't show his chest in photos or videos because he has gyno

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              • BioEclecticB
                BioEclectic @yerrag
                last edited by BioEclectic

                @yerrag
                As a lifelong student of history, rewriting and erasing is visceral.

                Large smear campaigns are bad enough but the time to really worry are when names and bodies of work begin to disappear (has anyone tried to research Gilbert Ling a second time lately, without resorting to books?). I can name and discuss estoric historical examples all day long.

                The web and digital are both great and terrible places to store information btw.

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                • DonkeyDudeD
                  DonkeyDude @Hando-Jin
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                  @Hando-Jin said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                  protect the women!

                  What did he do, exactly?

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                    Regina @A Former User
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                    @C-Mex 💯 The Powers That Be = The Apex Predator.

                    The devil's toolkit strategies.

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                      Regina @A Former User
                      last edited by

                      @questforhealth You bet. Ray is an actual threat.

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                      • Hando-JinH
                        Hando-Jin @DonkeyDude
                        last edited by

                        @DonkeyDude said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                        What did he do, exactly?

                        Reply

                        Disagreed with that Blossom character. Fortunately there was a Law and Order simp available to rush in and white knite the situation.

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                          Regina @Hando-Jin
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                          @Hando-Jin So creepy. Ingratiating himself to Blossom.
                          And she's falling for this crap.
                          What a shame.

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                          • KorvenK
                            Korven
                            last edited by Korven

                            Lmao the activity level on RPF has dropped off a cliff.

                            The only "posters" left are Charlie and his army of burner accounts.

                            I mean look at this post by Sebastian B - it is so stupidly obvious this is just a means to fill up the empty space with useless "low toxin diet" posts:

                            burner account.png

                            So... you're telling me that you are unable to eat apples because of the "the high-toxin Ray Peat cancer diet." and have to eat apple powder?

                            Riveting content!

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                            • KorvenK
                              Korven @Hando-Jin
                              last edited by

                              @Hando-Jin To be fair that is probably the only time I have ever agreed with Charlie banning someone - that guy seemed like such an asshole.

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                                ilovethesea
                                last edited by ilovethesea

                                Well well well... who knew that Charlie had a Patreon? https://www.patreon.com/raypeatforum_charlie

                                Screenshot 2024-03-30 at 1.40.34 AM copy.png

                                And here’s proof of his hypocrisy:

                                Screenshot 2024-03-30 at 1.40.44 AM copy.png

                                Edit - looks like he started this in 2020 before coming up with the subscription idea https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/charlies-patreon-drive-please-donate.32272/

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                                  ilovethesea @Amazoniac
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                                  @Amazoniac said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                  Did you, BioEclectic and other members have the chance to open the initial version of the forum, at the time when Ray agreed with its creation? The appearance was almost a variation of his website, with a picture of him and some of his favorite foods.

                                  I vaguely remember that yes. Just checked archive.today and it’s not great - https://archive.is/raypeatforum.com Random selection of pages and the oldest I found was 2016.

                                  I wonder what are the thresholds for protesting for those who remain indifferent. They need a footage of the lion incinerating members with ethanol retinol to act?

                                  Maybe some of the indifferent ones are struggling with serious health problems and don’t want to provoke the lion in case they get banned and lose the ability to ask questions there.

                                  As for the few supportive militants, they're intriguing. They identify themselves as the open-minded camp while watching unfazed the tyranny in front of them. If these people were liberals as claimed, they would repudiate the administration and wouldn't be willing to be part of it.

                                  Other than Mosaic and Christ lady, does anyone recognize the current pro-vitamin A posters at RPF? Could they be infiltrators or “sleeper” accounts that were already in position for this purpose?

                                  So the same entity as Thor Torrens and company - put in place to slowly ramp up the slander of Ray and create the illusion of a consensus for low vitamin A BS. Perfect example is this Sebastian B guy referring to “the high-toxin Ray Peat cancer diet." They’re definitely escalating their lies.

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                                  • Hando-JinH
                                    Hando-Jin @Korven
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                                    @Korven They're all assholes in that forum

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                                    • Hando-JinH
                                      Hando-Jin @ilovethesea
                                      last edited by

                                      @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                      @Amazoniac said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                      Did you, BioEclectic and other members have the chance to open the initial version of the forum, at the time when Ray agreed with its creation? The appearance was almost a variation of his website, with a picture of him and some of his favorite foods.

                                      I vaguely remember that yes. Just checked archive.today and it’s not great - https://archive.is/raypeatforum.com Random selection of pages and the oldest I found was 2016.

                                      I wonder what are the thresholds for protesting for those who remain indifferent. They need a footage of the lion incinerating members with ethanol retinol to act?

                                      Maybe some of the indifferent ones are struggling with serious health problems and don’t want to provoke the lion in case they get banned and lose the ability to ask questions there.

                                      As for the few supportive militants, they're intriguing. They identify themselves as the open-minded camp while watching unfazed the tyranny in front of them. If these people were liberals as claimed, they would repudiate the administration and wouldn't be willing to be part of it.

                                      Other than Mosaic and Christ lady, does anyone recognize the current pro-vitamin A posters at RPF? Could they be infiltrators or “sleeper” accounts that were already in position for this purpose?

                                      So the same entity as Thor Torrens and company - put in place to slowly ramp up the slander of Ray and create the illusion of a consensus for low vitamin A BS. Perfect example is this Sebastian B guy referring to “the high-toxin Ray Peat cancer diet." They’re definitely escalating their lies.

                                      Good luck to them trying to bury Ray's work under a mountain of slick talking points and emotionally charged catch phrases. They look like same old same old alt-health world bros and dipshits. Their fad won't last 6 months.

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                                      • yerragY
                                        yerrag @Hando-Jin
                                        last edited by

                                        @Hando-Jin said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                        @yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                        @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                        I think this Thor Torrens person is an agent assigned to popularize the “low vitamin A/anti-Peat” project. Has anyone found the viral video this guy is referring to?

                                        Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.55.56 PM copy.png

                                        Also look at his Twitter bio... special assistant to POTUS? Emmy winner?

                                        Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.53.26 PM copy.png

                                        Same asshole energy as Garrett Smith what a surprise

                                        Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.46.45 PM copy.png

                                        Jocks with some science to sell.

                                        Buying- the desperate already hooked on Fentanyl with some to spare. Muscles and guns give the sellers street cred.

                                        looks like a dead-eyed psychopath

                                        "How about we stand on south beach with our shirts off and ask all the women who walk by who has better eyes me or you"

                                        the alpha king who thinks female validation is the ultimate metric

                                        I suspect he doesn't show his chest in photos or videos because he has gyno

                                        He finds himself over the years attracting people with fundamentalist inclinations. He may actually have gyno, and can't bear his chest, but clothes himself with guns as wearables. Nice catch.

                                        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                        • DonkeyDudeD
                                          DonkeyDude @Korven
                                          last edited by

                                          @Korven said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                          So... you're telling me that you are unable to eat apples because of the "the high-toxin Ray Peat cancer diet." and have to eat apple powder?

                                          Stomach ulcers did not exist before Ray Peat started promoting his toxic diet. Move on or I will move you on.

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                                          • yerragY
                                            yerrag @BioEclectic
                                            last edited by

                                            @BioEclectic said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                            @yerrag
                                            As a lifelong student of history, rewriting and erasing is visceral.

                                            Large smear campaigns are bad enough but the time to really worry are when names and bodies of work begin to disappear (has anyone tried to research Gilbert Ling a second time lately, without resorting to books?). I can name and discuss estoric historical examples all day long.

                                            The web and digital are both great and terrible places to store information btw.

                                            They're actually doing more than just erasing the likes of Gilbert Ling, pushing what advances our station as humans by depriving us of revolutionary knowledge, but also depriving of access literally to tools to apply such knowledge to improve our health.

                                            I know. Just my experience with using hundred dollar devices made by Chinese companies from Shenzhen speaks volumes.

                                            One of them is a ring that takes very accurate measurements of oxygen saturation and displays them in a chart. To visualize what the fluctuations in spO2 that even in the ICU (where I had the serendipity to be confined in due a stroke of luck- a perfect storm that landed me there) I cannot see with all their expensive monitoring devices there.

                                            I am constantly adding these tools. So I'm aware when future versions of software such as apps become dumbed down and become toys for the average consumer.

                                            I have spent the past two days trying to make an app work for the O²Ring, which I had been using for the past 3 years, and learning a lot from using it as it relates to my health. The insight I got from it has been invaluable. I know because during my confinement I spoke about my findings with my attending doctors and they could not relate to what I was showing them.

                                            The new app for the O²Ring has been dumbed down, and I had been using older versions of the app for a while already. But then all of a sudden, the old apps started crashing. I kept on installing and using older and older versions of the app, until the oldest version In could find. All crashed. In my old phone as well as in my newer android phone. Such that it rendered my O²Ring practically useless except for the newer apps giving very little information amidst all the eye candy in user interface design. It essentially making an app meant for users of the Oura. Simplified and meant for the user to accept the expertise and AI involved in interpreting the data for him.

                                            Unless I can write my own app and have access to the APIs, which are protected by IP (intellectual property) laws, my exploration deeper into applying what we know of bioenergetics from the likes of Ling and Peat on my own with low cost but powerful devices from the Chinese will become more and more difficult.

                                            The only way all the old apps would keep crashing, I believe, has to do with the Android software that has lately been seeded with code that makes even old apps crash. I think in this area the powers that be are beginning to insidiously make the masses paupers in using low cost and empowering tools to better their health. Such devices are lately becoming more commonplace, and the sensors used are getting cheaper as they become more accurate. They are now nipping this nascent wave in the bud.

                                            Another sign to add to what is happening to RPF as they start corralling us like cattle into the feed lot.

                                            Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                            engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                            wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                            the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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