New "Mission" of RPF

[ilovethesea]

Well well well... who knew that Charlie had a Patreon? https://www.patreon.com/raypeatforum_charlie

And here’s proof of his hypocrisy:

Edit - looks like he started this in 2020 before coming up with the subscription idea https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/charlies-patreon-drive-please-donate.32272/

[ilovethesea]

@Amazoniac said in New "Mission" of RPF:

Did you, BioEclectic and other members have the chance to open the initial version of the forum, at the time when Ray agreed with its creation? The appearance was almost a variation of his website, with a picture of him and some of his favorite foods.

I vaguely remember that yes. Just checked archive.today and it’s not great - https://archive.is/raypeatforum.com Random selection of pages and the oldest I found was 2016.

I wonder what are the thresholds for protesting for those who remain indifferent. They need a footage of the lion incinerating members with ethanol retinol to act?

Maybe some of the indifferent ones are struggling with serious health problems and don’t want to provoke the lion in case they get banned and lose the ability to ask questions there.

As for the few supportive militants, they're intriguing. They identify themselves as the open-minded camp while watching unfazed the tyranny in front of them. If these people were liberals as claimed, they would repudiate the administration and wouldn't be willing to be part of it.

Other than Mosaic and Christ lady, does anyone recognize the current pro-vitamin A posters at RPF? Could they be infiltrators or “sleeper” accounts that were already in position for this purpose?

So the same entity as Thor Torrens and company - put in place to slowly ramp up the slander of Ray and create the illusion of a consensus for low vitamin A BS. Perfect example is this Sebastian B guy referring to “the high-toxin Ray Peat cancer diet." They’re definitely escalating their lies.

[Hando-Jin]

@Korven They're all assholes in that forum

[Hando-Jin]

@ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@Amazoniac said in New "Mission" of RPF:

Did you, BioEclectic and other members have the chance to open the initial version of the forum, at the time when Ray agreed with its creation? The appearance was almost a variation of his website, with a picture of him and some of his favorite foods.

I vaguely remember that yes. Just checked archive.today and it’s not great - https://archive.is/raypeatforum.com Random selection of pages and the oldest I found was 2016.

I wonder what are the thresholds for protesting for those who remain indifferent. They need a footage of the lion incinerating members with ethanol retinol to act?

Maybe some of the indifferent ones are struggling with serious health problems and don’t want to provoke the lion in case they get banned and lose the ability to ask questions there.

As for the few supportive militants, they're intriguing. They identify themselves as the open-minded camp while watching unfazed the tyranny in front of them. If these people were liberals as claimed, they would repudiate the administration and wouldn't be willing to be part of it.

Other than Mosaic and Christ lady, does anyone recognize the current pro-vitamin A posters at RPF? Could they be infiltrators or “sleeper” accounts that were already in position for this purpose?

So the same entity as Thor Torrens and company - put in place to slowly ramp up the slander of Ray and create the illusion of a consensus for low vitamin A BS. Perfect example is this Sebastian B guy referring to “the high-toxin Ray Peat cancer diet." They’re definitely escalating their lies.

Good luck to them trying to bury Ray's work under a mountain of slick talking points and emotionally charged catch phrases. They look like same old same old alt-health world bros and dipshits. Their fad won't last 6 months.

[yerrag]

@Hando-Jin said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

I think this Thor Torrens person is an agent assigned to popularize the “low vitamin A/anti-Peat” project. Has anyone found the viral video this guy is referring to?

Also look at his Twitter bio... special assistant to POTUS? Emmy winner?

Same asshole energy as Garrett Smith what a surprise

Jocks with some science to sell.

Buying- the desperate already hooked on Fentanyl with some to spare. Muscles and guns give the sellers street cred.

looks like a dead-eyed psychopath

"How about we stand on south beach with our shirts off and ask all the women who walk by who has better eyes me or you"

the alpha king who thinks female validation is the ultimate metric

I suspect he doesn't show his chest in photos or videos because he has gyno

He finds himself over the years attracting people with fundamentalist inclinations. He may actually have gyno, and can't bear his chest, but clothes himself with guns as wearables. Nice catch.

[DonkeyDude]

@Korven said in New "Mission" of RPF:

So... you're telling me that you are unable to eat apples because of the "the high-toxin Ray Peat cancer diet." and have to eat apple powder?

Stomach ulcers did not exist before Ray Peat started promoting his toxic diet. Move on or I will move you on.

[yerrag]

@BioEclectic said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag
As a lifelong student of history, rewriting and erasing is visceral.

Large smear campaigns are bad enough but the time to really worry are when names and bodies of work begin to disappear (has anyone tried to research Gilbert Ling a second time lately, without resorting to books?). I can name and discuss estoric historical examples all day long.

The web and digital are both great and terrible places to store information btw.

They're actually doing more than just erasing the likes of Gilbert Ling, pushing what advances our station as humans by depriving us of revolutionary knowledge, but also depriving of access literally to tools to apply such knowledge to improve our health.

I know. Just my experience with using hundred dollar devices made by Chinese companies from Shenzhen speaks volumes.

One of them is a ring that takes very accurate measurements of oxygen saturation and displays them in a chart. To visualize what the fluctuations in spO2 that even in the ICU (where I had the serendipity to be confined in due a stroke of luck- a perfect storm that landed me there) I cannot see with all their expensive monitoring devices there.

I am constantly adding these tools. So I'm aware when future versions of software such as apps become dumbed down and become toys for the average consumer.

I have spent the past two days trying to make an app work for the O²Ring, which I had been using for the past 3 years, and learning a lot from using it as it relates to my health. The insight I got from it has been invaluable. I know because during my confinement I spoke about my findings with my attending doctors and they could not relate to what I was showing them.

The new app for the O²Ring has been dumbed down, and I had been using older versions of the app for a while already. But then all of a sudden, the old apps started crashing. I kept on installing and using older and older versions of the app, until the oldest version In could find. All crashed. In my old phone as well as in my newer android phone. Such that it rendered my O²Ring practically useless except for the newer apps giving very little information amidst all the eye candy in user interface design. It essentially making an app meant for users of the Oura. Simplified and meant for the user to accept the expertise and AI involved in interpreting the data for him.

Unless I can write my own app and have access to the APIs, which are protected by IP (intellectual property) laws, my exploration deeper into applying what we know of bioenergetics from the likes of Ling and Peat on my own with low cost but powerful devices from the Chinese will become more and more difficult.

The only way all the old apps would keep crashing, I believe, has to do with the Android software that has lately been seeded with code that makes even old apps crash. I think in this area the powers that be are beginning to insidiously make the masses paupers in using low cost and empowering tools to better their health. Such devices are lately becoming more commonplace, and the sensors used are getting cheaper as they become more accurate. They are now nipping this nascent wave in the bud.

Another sign to add to what is happening to RPF as they start corralling us like cattle into the feed lot.

[Korven]

@DonkeyDude My apologies Sir.

You're right, it was the toxic Ray Peat diet that caused stomach ulcers all along... The toxic bile gets so full with toxic "vitamin" A that it literally oozes out of the stomach and burns holes in it. And when you stop intaking the toxins they will instead ooze out of every pore in your skin; it's a glorious sight to behold. This new paradigm gets rid of all the nuances, it is a simple way to health, you only have to eat beef, beans and bread and buy the "Big Five" minerals from Life Giving store. After every new detox wave you feel like a new person. I am 4 years deep and detoxing copper right now from the crazy space weather! Happy easter (without the toxic eggs!)

#garrettsmithrightagain #toxicbiletheory

[Peatful]

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/thor-torrens-interviews-drstevegoeddeke-the-vitamin-a-disrespectors.52850/

[Amazoniac]

@ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@Amazoniac said in New "Mission" of RPF:

Did you, BioEclectic and other members have the chance to open the initial version of the forum, at the time when Ray agreed with its creation? The appearance was almost a variation of his website, with a picture of him and some of his favorite foods.

I vaguely remember that yes. Just checked archive.today and it’s not great - https://archive.is/raypeatforum.com Random selection of pages and the oldest I found was 2016.

I wonder what are the thresholds for protesting for those who remain indifferent. They need a footage of the lion incinerating members with ethanol retinol to act?

Maybe some of the indifferent ones are struggling with serious health problems and don’t want to provoke the lion in case they get banned and lose the ability to ask questions there.

As for the few supportive militants, they're intriguing. They identify themselves as the open-minded camp while watching unfazed the tyranny in front of them. If these people were liberals as claimed, they would repudiate the administration and wouldn't be willing to be part of it.

Other than Mosaic and Christ lady, does anyone recognize the current pro-vitamin A posters at RPF? Could they be infiltrators or “sleeper” accounts that were already in position for this purpose?

So the same entity as Thor Torrens and company - put in place to slowly ramp up the slander of Ray and create the illusion of a consensus for low vitamin A BS. Perfect example is this Sebastian B guy referring to “the high-toxin Ray Peat cancer diet." They’re definitely escalating their lies.

Yes, but my attention is on the people who are not in critical situations, and they represent a considerable part of the indifferent.

Unlike before, that members of the community were limited in alternatives and had to put up with maladministration to stay in touch with persons into Ray's work, we now have multiple platforms embracing the community as the forum disintegrates. So, people can more and more rely on the Garrey Pith Forum as an archive and interact elsewhere.

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For the few militants over there who think that they belong to the open-minded camp, start to question your leader for fair reasons and let's see how long you last in this broad-minded, philanthropic group that you support.

While it's true that administrators in general want their platform to be busy, and we're also utilitarian in a sense, I haven't spotted such kind of corrupted behavior in the alternatives.

Tip: if you decide to be a questioner on the Garrey Pith Forum, you may write 'Cheese!' on your message to look good on the screenshot of your final post. #toxicpawnapocalypse

[AkJono]

@yerrag
great breakdown of the 'useful App that is no longer'. And the symbol of 'more to come' down the road. Tech that gives you a nudge left or right, up or down, but not actually have any useful #s as Data for yourself.

I have an old iphone 4, which cannot do phone as there is no longer 2G here or in the US. Still works fine. I kept it as back up for my recently received iphone 6. We got old tech that works just fine. Til apple stuffs the OS, or 4G gets outmoded.

[A Former User]

I'm done with the RPF, but if you really want to raise the ire of the 'toxic a' crowd wherever you may find them, try asking them why the liver converts carotenoids to vitamin a in the first place.

[ilovethesea]

According to this analytics site, Ray Peat Forum headquarters are in Cambridge, UK - not Florida where “Charlie” lives

Seems strange since these other websites have accurate locations:

RPF was more popular than you might think - the #211 ranked website in the world for health/nutrition. Compare to these similar sites:

But now traffic levels are tanking...

Even if they’re just returning to normal levels from Mercola boosting views in January, we can see here that pageviews and time on site have fallen off a cliff

This website also says that RPF HQ is in the UK: “Ray Peat Forum's headquarters are located at Tennis Ct Rd, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, CB2 1PD, United Kingdom”
https://www.zoominfo.com/c/ray-peat-forum/365487783

[Mulloch94]

@ilovethesea He probably hosting the site on a server stationed in the UK. It's not a uncommon thing to see for people hosting a web site. Maybe that's why he's also charging people money now. He might have gotten tired paying for it after all these years.

[AkJono]

@ilovethesea
Interesting, though I wonder how 'accurate' these numbers are.
The first PIC shows that raypeat.com has 11-50 employees???
And it makes $1 - $2 Million in annual revenues?!
Hmmmm. Anyhow, stats can be influential for certain decisions. For us as individuals and for other $$$ types. Carry on !

[A Former User]

@Mulloch94 said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@ilovethesea He probably hosting the site on a server stationed in the UK. It's not a uncommon thing to see for people hosting a web site. Maybe that's why he's also charging people money now. He might have gotten tired paying for it after all these years.

I'm not sure about this. Early on I was looking at some info about the site and got references to Iceland I think. Anyway after looking at it some more I realized it was the hosting site/network whatever. This seems odd to show HQ in England IMO. I'm sure these reporting sites take into account server hosting otherwise it would be all over the place. I could be wrong, but I find this suspect.

[DavidPS]

@C-Mex Whois still lists Iceland.
https://whois.whoisxmlapi.com/lookup-report/JB20MZnN5m

[A Former User]

This information comes up when you do a search for the owner of the domain name RayPeatForum.

https://lookup.icann.org/en/lookup

[ilovethesea]

@Mulloch94 said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@ilovethesea He probably hosting the site on a server stationed in the UK. It's not a uncommon thing to see for people hosting a web site. Maybe that's why he's also charging people money now. He might have gotten tired paying for it after all these years.

The server is Cloudflare which is US based.
https://iplocation.io/website-server-software/raypeatforum.com

[A Former User]

@DavidPS

I think it has to do with the Cloudflare service.