New "Mission" of RPF
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@questforhealth lol
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This whole thread is making me think we should all just get off the internet and trust no one at this point
or maybe its not so bad idk
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Yeah well they've probably got some kind of profile on each and every one of us that are not part of this charade. That's why they need to know our usernames on RPF. And getting banned from the RPF doesn't necessarily give anybody any street cred in my opinion.
Maybe Ray Peat will see the end of digital culture as he wished toward the end after all. Look through the overly technical talk, the meaningless interjections of suppposed wit, diversions and dismissals right here on this thread and it is easy to see. Techniques to try to intimidate, dissuade and silence people. These are all techniques for social manipulation discussed in the literature BTW.
Vote accordingly people if you want to see an end to this BS online and a restoration of our rights under the Constitution. This may just constitute criminal or civil fraud if this is indeed an intelligence operation or otherwise connected to the US gov't, and there's only one candidate that has challenged and is challenging the censorship apparatus in court and recently won an injunction against Joe Biden, and has a VP from the Silicon Valley AI/tech world that won't be duped.
We don't know where we are exactly or where it is heading with AI and social media infiltration They've run these kinds of disinformation operations in foreign countries for decades, but the intelligence agencies have been turned against the Amercian people, and academia and other institutions have been duped into thinking this is some kind of legitimate 'research'. Some of these puppets probably actually believe they are 'saving democracy' by battling 'dangerous misinformation', but we are under military rule through the art of propaganda and deception.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIA Director (1981)
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@C-Mex
Scary times, wondering if we should print out the Ray Peat website and have it on paper. Or even have someone make a book or something...
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@questforhealth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
or maybe its not so bad idk
This. There's nothing new under the sun really. We're just changing lenses. The angle on this one, somewhere between packet switching and corporate law, is probably far too wide. Don't sweat it q4h. Sleep well, shine and don't let anyone put the light out in a way three sleeps can't fix. At no one elses expense. I'm guilty by the way. Avert or correct that.
Walk, don't run.
@questforhealth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
This whole thread is making me think we should all just get off the internet
Once or twice a day at least. A week at a time from time to time. More if you can. Get bored. Remember.
@questforhealth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
trust no one at this point
Trust is the removal of attention for the discernment of Truth. It's context dependant at all times. And you can defer it to God.
Be careful with cynicism. Because it's also a feeling. If you don't trust where you ought to, you won't be trusted. And we need it.
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It's hard to know whats true or not sometimes. Bad brainfog from heavy metals still.
Last time this year I must have been in a very high energy or 'vibration' state whatever you want to call it... Weird how people treat you when life is like that..ffs I wish I had never drunk that poisoned coffee
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@ThinPicking said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Not to mention the echo (in my mind at least) of the works of Aleksandr Kogan and Cambridge Analytica.
Then again. ZoomInfo et al are notoriously schizo in their auto-connections. Still there must be a reason for that association. It's a strange one. I'm still on there, apparently working for several different outfits. When in reality I just moved on.
I would quite like an excuse to make the 2 hour drive and do this again. Would a meme RPF investigation land me in the bottom of the channels of little Venice. The time of year is certainly approaching to find out.
A spooks mining field trip – it’s not you that should end up in the canal. I wonder if there is a link between Sander van der Linden and Cambridge Analytica? Just thinking out loud. Fascinating how some of the brightest minds in the country end up as change agents. They walk among us
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@C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Peatly said in New "Mission" of RPF:
HMofG!! this thread has taken a dark turn. Good detective work everyone. The Cambridge University connection is a bit worrying not least because of the publications coming from the psychology department on health misinformation
https://www.sdmlab.psychol.cam.ac.uk/research/misinformation-publications
Very interesting. Great citations as to where things are and where they are going, and the author of the book links to WHO "Infodemic Management", etc. People have to realize just how large the online censorship apparatus is -- it's a mature industry -- but they still had problems with someone like Peat who didn't use social media and seemed to get attention from his website alone. Social media infiltration, 'prebunking', 'psychological innoculation', political bias in judging 'misinformation', 'accuracy nudging' and US conservatives...and more. It's all there. We were a perfect little test population, even though not all of us are conservatives.
Edit: It is particularly bothersome to me how much the censorship industry -- and now it appears the social media infiltration racket -- has permeated academia, and been offered and embraced as legitimate 'research'.
Wasn't academia invented for this? You will be interested in the work of David Price
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@questforhealth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
This whole thread is making me think we should all just get off the internet and trust no one at this point
or maybe its not so bad idk
That’s what they want – us being silenced. During lockdown people were kept apart and propagandised into taking poisons. Now they are hiding the data
What can they do to me that they haven’t already done?
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That sounds dark. But can relate
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@AkJono said in New "Mission" of RPF:
I have an old iphone 4, which cannot do phone as there is no longer 2G here or in the US. Still works fine. I kept it as back up for my recently received iphone 6. We got old tech that works just fine. Til apple stuffs the OS, or 4G gets outmoded.
I hear you AkJono! On your cue, I installed a very early version of the Vihealth app on a used Korean variant of Samsung's Galaxy S5 (10 years old already) and it worked right out of the gate. Am never going to update it to newer versions.
Google and Apple are both disabling many features under the cover of "security." Sounds familiar, as that is what the real world is like after the Zionists architected 911 and blamed it on Arabs, and then used the COVID hoax to rob us of more of our freedom. But so as not to be so obvious, they used "our safety" instead of security that time.
But the writing is on the wall. We are seeing technology being tilted towards state control and losing its ability to enable us, China's Harmony OS may look like an alternative, but China and Russia and the rest of the world are simply just the other side of the Hegelian dialectic. Remember that China and Russia were collaborators in the COVID Hoax as well.
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@Peatly said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@ThinPicking said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Peatly
I wonder if there is a link between Sander van der Linden and Cambridge Analytica? Just thinking out loud.Probably. My interest is piqued, thank you.
@Peatly said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@ThinPicking said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Peatly
Fascinating how some of the brightest minds in the country end up as change agents. They walk among usRunners with scissors. So to speak.
I (think I) can see how it happens.
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Now both of these guys are holding guns in their avatars. Totally normal for your health guru to have a machine gun 🤪
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Charlie will welcome us back to the “new and improved” RPF if we “recognize the error of our ways”... we are toxic and he’s willing to help us!
Also notice this Nia-Sources Telegram group. Same person as this https://twitter.com/kelseykenney144
They are ALL cross promoting each other now as part of the plan.That one is very aggressive just like Garrett and “Thor” and saying derogatory comments about Ray. For example:
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@Mulloch94 said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@C-Mex Well a lot of businesses do have forum sponsors. If Charlie isn't running LGS then it's certainly probable he knows the people who run it.
I still don't know what to think about the Cambridge thing, it's seems circumstantial at best. Amazon reserves server space for the CIA, yet there's still a lot of legitimate people who use their server space as well.
The weird religious extremism is the one thing I absolutely agree with you on. This isn't your typical "live right by god" rhetoric. He's spewing all sorts of fringe conspiracy shit. From the outside it would definitely be a bad look for Trump supporters. You wouldn't want this guy to sell the MAGA pitch to a bunch of skeptical democrats for sure, lol.
Again the Cambridge University address is NOT related to the server which is Cloudflare. You can look up Cloudflare’s locations here https://www.cloudflare.com/network/
One of them is London, GB. Nothing in Cambridge.
Another thing you can do is look up some websites you know on SimilarWeb and see if the headquarters location info is accurate. I’ve done that and it hasn’t been wrong yet. Scarily accurate.
I believe you are vastly underestimating the lengths Pharma would go to in order to discredit Ray. He was tracked by the govt since the 1960s, you don’t think they’ve been formulating a plan to keep his message suppressed?
We have zero evidence that the person on the Life Giving Store LLC documents is also “Charlie” on RPF.
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One more thing, I found this document that explains the infiltration strategy. “The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)” https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
I think these 3 are especially relevant - think of the low vitamin A thread and how the forum is now flooded with low quality Twitter posts from Charlie’s new friends.
Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'
Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'
Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'
Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.
Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'
It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.
You can read the full doc here https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
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@Peatly said in New "Mission" of RPF:
HMofG!! this thread has taken a dark turn. Good detective work everyone. The Cambridge University connection is a bit worrying not least because of the publications coming from the psychology department on health misinformation
https://www.sdmlab.psychol.cam.ac.uk/research/misinformation-publications
Lookie who the Cambridge Department of Psychology 'partners' with. Heads-up US taxpayers.
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@ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:
You can read the full doc here https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
Spot on.
Here Mike is responding to a post about the need for footing/grounding and coming from a place of stability in the martial arts, but I think the destabilization technique can be seen in the RPF in years prior.
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
We are seeing technology being tilted towards state control and losing its ability to enable us, China's Harmony OS may look like an alternative
You know that Android is open source, right? Giving away your personal data to China is not necessary.
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@zawisza You also know that Google Play Services is not open source, right?
If you're selling wearables and you need your apps to work under Google Play Store, you know that Android being open source does not give you any leverage, or are you living under a rock?