New "Mission" of RPF
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One more thing, I found this document that explains the infiltration strategy. “The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)” https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
I think these 3 are especially relevant - think of the low vitamin A thread and how the forum is now flooded with low quality Twitter posts from Charlie’s new friends.
Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'
Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'
Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'
Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.
Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'
It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.
You can read the full doc here https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
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@Peatly said in New "Mission" of RPF:
HMofG!! this thread has taken a dark turn. Good detective work everyone. The Cambridge University connection is a bit worrying not least because of the publications coming from the psychology department on health misinformation
https://www.sdmlab.psychol.cam.ac.uk/research/misinformation-publications
Lookie who the Cambridge Department of Psychology 'partners' with. Heads-up US taxpayers.
https://www.sdmlab.psychol.cam.ac.uk/partners
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@ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:
You can read the full doc here https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
Spot on.
Here Mike is responding to a post about the need for footing/grounding and coming from a place of stability in the martial arts, but I think the destabilization technique can be seen in the RPF in years prior.
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
We are seeing technology being tilted towards state control and losing its ability to enable us, China's Harmony OS may look like an alternative
You know that Android is open source, right? Giving away your personal data to China is not necessary.
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@zawisza You also know that Google Play Services is not open source, right?
If you're selling wearables and you need your apps to work under Google Play Store, you know that Android being open source does not give you any leverage, or are you living under a rock?
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
You also know that Google Play Services is not open source, right?
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@C-Mex
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"open"gapps is just a repack.
Warning. MicroG is a ballache of epic proportions. For this reason I don't bother.
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Maybe I'm late to thinking through the implications of AI in the hands of gov't, and this of course depends upon the level of sophistication, but if all you need is a few people to be programming and pulling the strings in an online campaign like this, you virtually eliminate the possibility of whistleblowers or human beings that have ethical concerns and refuse to play along. It makes the deep state even deeper.
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@C-Mex
What a shitshow humanity
I don't know what to do anymore
What can we do?
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@C-Mex
Trivialise and extrapolate C-Mex
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/chatgpts-ancestor-gpt-2-jammed-into-125gb-excel-sheet-llm-runs-inside-a-spreadsheet-that-you-can-download-from-github
https://www.hendrik-erz.de/post/why-gzip-just-beat-a-large-language-model
https://github.com/bbycroft/llm-viz
https://github.com/mattneary/attention -
@questforhealth
Eat sugar and keep calm.
Walk. Don't run.
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What if we can't walk yet. Only run. Not joking
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@questforhealth
Ahhhhhh to be "young" again...
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@questforhealth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@C-Mex
What a shitshow humanity
I don't know what to do anymore
What can we do?
I don't see where Ray Peat gave permission for a non-profit using his name based in Cambridge, UK. Nor did any of the participants/members of the Ray Peat Forum have knowledge or awareness if this is the case, and what was presented as to its origins was likely fraudulent. I also find this location interesting as US gov't actors have been known to 'offshore' activities banned by law or the Constitution of the United States.
Edit: The fact that it was established as a non-profit suggests to me that a grant awards or donations were used to fund it. I can't for the life of me find the page I was looking at yesterday where the Dept of Pharmacology at Cambridge acknowledged the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for prior funding, but I'm sure that is just all just another coincidence....
Then in 2020 Gates established the Gates Council scholarship program at Cambridge with the initial donation of a whopping 210 million.
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@C-Mex
Weird stuff. Weird world.
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The Thor Torrens twitter guy seems all in on the anti-vitamin a. He and Charlie are also all in on Trump again. Quick recap:
Vitamin a is poison.
Bill gates wants to poison people with vitamin a.
Trump is going to save us all, even though he consulted with Bill Gates during covid, went along with lockdowns, and still to this day refuses to state publicly that covid vaccines are deadly.
This isn’t a political post or “orange-man-bad” post either. I supported the TV game show host myself up until this year. I can no longer support anyone who still recommends the mrna vaccine after seeing what it did to people close to me.
So Charlie and Thor think there’s this huge vitamin a conspiracy, but don’t have the critical thinking skills to see that Trump went along with poisoning millions of people and actually still takes credit for it.
After the Cambridge address business I personally believe it’s a conspiracy. RPF was a pretty large congregation of anti-medical establishment individuals. Most were against the covid vax.
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@questforhealth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@C-Mex
Scary times, wondering if we should print out the Ray Peat website and have it on paper. Or even have someone make a book or something...
I was actually going to make a thread on this requesting someone do this. Perhaps also add in some of their own knowledge on Peat himself like his philosophy etc. Probably best someone like Danny Roddy who seems to have been close to Peat and is the truest to his original ideas. Maybe Georgie too.
I'd buy it and read it. Would certainly keep me off my computer -
Funny you would bring that up. Just been thinking of throwing out my computer or something.... What a drain on your life energy... Frying the brain
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@questforhealth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Scary times, wondering if we should print out the Ray Peat website and have it on paper. Or even have someone make a book or something...
Book about what? What's the point of it? If you want Peat's articles just download them and print them out. Use POD service like Lulu if you want it nicely printed. If you want Peat's biography read T3's substack.
@Jakeandpace said in New "Mission" of RPF:
I was actually going to make a thread on this requesting someone do this. Perhaps also add in some of their own knowledge on Peat himself like his philosophy etc.
Peat would recommend some people to read entire biology textbooks and there's plenty literature on "peaty" physiology already available. Peat's philosophy would be to get good and smart by reading actual research/textbooks and trying out things yourself instead of relying 3rd party renditions.
