New "Mission" of RPF
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Has anyone seen this?
"We are committed to advancing the groundbreaking work of Ray Peat, embracing the evolution of his theories as new insights emerge. Our mission goes beyond merely preserving his legacy; we aim to innovate and enhance his contributions to the field. Ray Peat envisioned a movement dedicated to fostering wholeness and regeneration within society, and we hold the keys to making this vision a reality. By integrating the core principles of Ray Peat's research with the latest developments in "toxic bile theory", we are poised to catalyze the transformative movement Peat aspired to create, ensuring that our pursuit of knowledge and well-being is ever-progressing, never static."
Basically going to try to change everything Peat has said
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@risingfire i hope that "new mission" will be fixing male baldness
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"Let's continue with his work:
PUFA is not so bad, vitamin A is toxic, copper is toxic, niacinamide is poison. Carrot? beta carotene, plant poison, fructose is toxic. THE RAY PEAT DIET IS MEALTING MY FACE, BIOENERGETICS IS WRONG"
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@risingfire personally for me, i think that "new mission" caan be better fixing male pattern baldness ://
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https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/748/hair-growth-loss-ppars-and-keratin
Travis theory on balding.
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@TexugoDoMel thanks, i will read this later
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They have NO RIGHT, let me say that again, NO RIGHT to claim any improvement or moving forward of Ray's ideas beyond crude molestation combined with grotesque "toxic bile" fondling.
They have shown zero capacity to understand neither the principles nor the implications of Ray's extensive body of thought. If anyone wants to claim that they are "transforming the movement Peat aspired to create" then let them prove their intellectual honesty, commitment, and achievement in mastering Ray's ideas. On all fronts, the deluded "toxic bile" cronies fail completely.
Fortunately, we have many people honestly committed to advancing Ray's work in directions that are consistent with its basic premises. And we need no repugnant HR brief to justify us doing so.
At this point, the RPF is a google search storefront for HealthNatura, as well as the moronic "bile theory."
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Imagine ignoring 99.9% of Peat's work and parasitizing the name to sell new products. Unbelievable
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@TexugoDoMel LOL!
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@BioS Haidut mentioned trying an experiment based on what Charlie has suggested with the whole toxic bile theory. If he disproves it, you may see a mass migration especially if he doesn't post on the RPF and sticks to his website and X(twitter).
That being said, I don't know how you can possibly view this as an evolution of Peat principles. His work is based on hundreds of years of work. A true evolution would be something along the lines of megadosing aspirin(don't do it).
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I was joking, but that's what they've been saying for a while now, the "story" of the face melting is Charlie's if I'm not mistaken
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Do people outside of charlie's small cult still post there?
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Sounds based
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@Charlie delusional and megalomania is all that is
smoke and mirrors for the hopeless and desperate
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@risingfire, hi.
Do you know the purpose of the experiment?
If it's to prove something to the poison A crowd, the proponents rejected a century-worth of research on this toxin, in a manner that's captured here. I wonder what unique it would have to offer to make any difference for them at all. May be animal sacrifice in vain.
The proponents have chronic afflictions on epithelial barriers (gut, lungs, skin), sites with high turnover (and poison A demands) and concentrated immune system. Observe their history, most of them report a past of gut problems, including the guy who rediscovered poison A as a toxin. Pathogens keep inducing aberrant responses, inflame the region, and worsen the disorder.
By depriving themselves of poison A, it's a form of partial immunosuppression. The body is signaled to conserve it, which can prevent the maladaptive immune response. When inflammation decreases, it's possible that less circulating poisonol is converted to poisonoic acids, and could explain the paradoxical elevation in serum poisonol, similar to an increase in the ratio of kilcidiol to kilcitriol when a problem lessens. Synthesis of proteins tends to be compromised in an inflammatory state, including those involved in the transport of poison A. With a relief from inflammation, the body must also able to mobilize the toxin better.
When people improve their condition and health markers in restricting poison A, I don't doubt it. But it's from relieving an inflammatory state, not because of lowering the poison A body load by itself. To infer that this makes poison A a poison is a little insane.
Consider these situations:
Take a nutrient that's important for sensation and a person who is suffering from severe localized pain at the extremities, that drives the person mad. By inducing a moderate deficiency of the nutrient, the core is spared, but the person is numbed at extremities and relieved of the pain to the point that it's possible to rest again, wake up refreshed, find motivation, regain appetite and so on towards improvement. Every time that the person consumes the nutrient, the pain returns and overall health deteriorates; conversely, its shortage leads to an improvement because it's possible to subsist on it for a long time from reserves. Is this nutrient a toxin?
Someone may be infected. Every time that this person eats, the infection is fueled and the symptoms flare to a debilitating extent. Fasting always works to fix the condition. Is food a toxin?
They think so.
If there's nothing unique about the experiment, it would only serve to lend some credibility in repeating what is already known.
In my opinion, the most compelling approach is to be able to replicate the improvement by suppressing the right inflammatory mediators through artificial means while maintaining the degree of poison A intoxication.
Without enlightening with alternatives, they will keep rejecting anything that you present to them, even if it contradicts reality.
The experiment would also need some attention in the design to not make it too easy to be dismissed.
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Hi, lion.
Assuming that this is not a fake account, you’re probably not here to pollute somebody else’s platform in the same way that you wouldn’t want yours to be polluted.
As someone experienced with forums, what are the 12 most valuable tips (one per year of experience) that you have to offer Brad for his space to thrive? I know that you’ll read this message, so try to be sincere, original and constructive.
@yerrag! It's good to re-encounter you.
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@Amazoniac I'm very sure this Charlie is a parody account - a rather amusing one at that
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@Kvothe of course it's a parody.
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People have different reactions to threat. Some will try to befriend a competitor, blend into the circle and then attempt to destabilize it somehow.
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@Amazoniac True, but that would take patience, cunning, and subtlety, attributes of which Charles posseses none.
