New "Mission" of RPF
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What Christian denomination(s) do Charlie, Garret, ICA, and Blossom belong to? Anyone know for sure?
When the bodybuilders found Ray Peat was when the "community" went from scholarly nerdy types to bro culture, and events since 2016 and covid made the fundies and racists feel more emboldened. Interesting no one ever points out the seething misogyny in all these spaces. That's just to be expected I suppose.
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@Light Yep misogyny is unacceptable, but on the rise, heck here in the UK some Politicians cannot define what a Woman is!, depressing state of affairs
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@Not_James_Bond you could always say something about it to your fellow males. In the multiple calls for violence against women and rape of underage girls on RPF I've never seen a dude say that's not ok. Yet men apparently were opposed to women having a private women-only space.
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@Light which is why a lot of women who used to comment 2012-2013 left RPF. Ironic since so much of Peat's work was dedicated to women's health and we were run off
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@Light Since I got banned for telling an Elton John joke on RPF (a long time ago) I will try to call it out here.
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Off topic, but you know the worst thing about getting suddenly banned is you don't get to say goodbye. So those who are following your experiments and posts probably think you died. I thought this about someone who disappeared from the RPF last October. Looking back at his anti Smith and Genereux posts I'm pretty sure he was banned without warning. I hope he'll join us here. I have a lot of questions for him.
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@S-Holmes Yep, People disappear, and you don't know the reason, a bereavement if you will, its sad.
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the Perry guy used to say something. Pretty consistently iirc.
Iâve certainly said something.
Thatâs when I thought the RPF was a relatively healthy space.
Man or woman: acting like a fcking asshole needs to be addressed.
Say something yourself.
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@Peatful Not my job to stand up to woman-hating males. And it's certainly not your place to tell me what to do. Males need to clean up their own filth. Ps how TF do you know I didn't?? Funny, I sure didn't see you, or anyone, backing me up when I was attacked and harassed by several vile males for "saying something."
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@Light said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Peatful Not my job to stand up to woman-hating males. And it's certainly not your place to tell me what to do. Males need to clean up their own filth. Ps how TF do you know I didn't?? Sure AF didn't see you, or anyone, backing me up.
Mm-hmmm
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@CurmudgeonApple He was a Marxist. Not an orthodox one I think, but he saw the ideas as scientific. It defined his work in a way, and as we know he was by and far quite positive about the Soviet Union, particularly Lenin (whose theoretical works he thought were very advanced) and Stalin.
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@Light It's very true what you're saying, I feel in my personal life women pick up on the basic principles about 100x faster than men, and are likely indispensable for the future of these ideas. The terminally online guys get very comfortable in their online communities and pretend their sexual fantasies constitute ideology.
Ray's legacy in his own words was:
"Ending oligarchy and ending the digital culture are important goals."
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@Light As far as the denomination of Charlie (I can't speak to the others) it seems to be sort of like a Terry Davis level pseudo-protestantism yet not really. Eschatology mixed with Old Testament LARPing. Not fundamentalist in the sense that there's modern ideas in there mixed in
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@CO3 said in New "Mission" of RPF:
He was a Marxist. ...he saw the ideas as scientific.
The cool thing about Marx is that his description of the state of humanity was 100% correct. The prescription, or to be generous: outcomes of the prescription, was questionable to say the least... heheh.
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@CO3 said in New "Mission" of RPF:
"Ending oligarchy and ending the digital culture are important goals."
I'd add a few additional things to the list, but that would be a great start.
@CO3 said in New "Mission" of RPF:
women pick up on the basic principles about 100x faster than men, and are likely indispensable for the future of these ideas. The terminally online guys get very comfortable in their online communities and pretend their sexual fantasies constitute ideology.
Exactly
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@TheSir @CO3 I come from steep fundie roots, and have been ingrained in the charismatic community for my entire adult life -- while the latter has a lot of former fundies, they are diametrically apposed. I'll say, Charlie comes across as a basic fundie/evangelical who's deranged and isolated. I found his invocation of God in the vitamin A matters, to have been disrespectful, and trying to rebuke Georgi's Vitamin A beliefs, in Jesus' name sacrilegious!!!
Since the Protestant reformation (especially in America), Protestants have had a propensity for looking for divine justification of their revolutionary validity. Martin Luther claimed the Islamic siege on Vienna was God's judgement for the Catholic church. The Munster rebellion is a great tale of Protestant insanity following prophecies of the Return of Jesus. America has had several fundie Quakers/Freemasons that fall under this "saw an angel/went to heaven/esoteric download" charismaticism they use to create a whole denomination. While it could be called charismatic, it should not be confused with the modern charismatic / Pentecostal / New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) movement.
The Modern Charismatic community / NAR, would be best described as reactionary. They believe in reconciling the Protestant and Catholic communities (and consider their differences little more than a Hegelian dialectic), and desire to return to the Church practices found in the book of Acts -- essentially believing that decadence and decay saw the Church's stagnation and loss of miraculous and divine power and authority in culture (trading it for governmental papacies). They believe in practicing the gifts that Paul described -- which almost all fundies, even the charismatic ones, don't like in practice.
Note that fundies and charismatics hold to all the same "essential doctrines."
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@Light said in New "Mission" of RPF:
What Christian denomination(s) do Charlie, Garret, ICA, and Blossom belong to? Anyone know for sure?
I'm interested too. Charlie is especially very extreme even for a fundamentalist American Protestant - he advocates polygyny, for one. Also, I would like to know what's the nexus between that and the Vitamin A stuff. I've read some of Grant Genereux's forum and it seems secular, Smith's twitter and website also aren't overtly religiously themed.
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@DonkeyDude said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Smith's twitter and website also aren't overtly religiously themed.
Did you miss the huge cross he has strategically placed behind him in all his videos? Itâs like a dogwhistle for people like Charlie and Christalone lady. He knows exactly whatâs heâs doing to attract these âtradâ types.
