New "Mission" of RPF
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@C-Mex so mercola will pretend he's into ray peat, act unhinged, and then maybe claim the ray pet diet caused psychosis from the high vitamin a... yeah all these people are suspicious and all of this happening after Peat's death is suspicious, it's good to watch them closely, cause i suspect this is an attempt to vilify his ideas.
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Why does it even matter if Charlie got permission from Peat to establish the forum? This seems to be a fake controversy designed to distract from the actual issue at hand and create a bogus moderate stance (maybe Ray really supported the forum's existence, maybe it's fake, how can I know)?
The actual issue is that the forum in it's current state has abandoned Peat's ideas and it has done so after he passed. Whether he approved of it or not at its inception is irrelevant. If the Generative Energy podcast suddenly started to promote "poison A" stuff, would it matter that at some point in the past Peat had approved of it?
All in all, is quite hilarious that Charlie, a Protestant belonging to some weird online denomination, is claiming a kind of apostolic succession as a source of his legitimacy.
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Yes that is what I am thinking, but RP is just part of the larger movement they're trying to discredit: vaccine skepticism, medical health freedom, anti-pharma, etc. Anything which threatens the gov't narrative.
I just saw the christ lady interjecting herself into a discussion about aspirin on the RPF to announce that her husband had a bad reaction as it is 'known to cause sinus infections' which is not only false but had nothing to do with topic being discussed. She's one of those dismissive Karen's trolling every thread looking to trounce on any original thought or plant seeds of doubt.
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@C-Mex she was acting crazy on the subreddit they eventually had to ban her, even though prior to that there was no active mods. All day every day she would start arguments about vitamin a, it's really weird how cult-y they act. If it works as well as they claim then other people will notice and try it too, no need to be trying this hard to convince others, and to ban all other discussion, that's only necessary if they know questioning the ideas will make them fall apart.
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@DonkeyDude said in New "Mission" of RPF:
The actual issue is that the forum in it's current state has abandoned Peat's ideas and it has done so after he passed. Whether he approved of it or not at its inception is irrelevant. If the Generative Energy podcast suddenly started to promote "poison A" stuff, would it matter that at some point in the past Peat had approved of it?
Exactly. Everything over there is suspect now. Here's what people who come to the RPF see now (apologies of course if this guy is real, it just looks like a faked inquiry to me so that Charlie can advertise for Smith and the toxic Vitamin a 'Awakening'). An attempt to divert new readers away from RP's work and towards paying for this charlatan that is the antithesis.
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@brightside Charlie conveniently ignores the proof that Ray said in 2018 and again in 2020 that he did NOT know the identity of the person running RPF. I’m thinking that 2012 email was Photoshopped... otherwise Ray would surely remember he had talked to someone about RPF before. Especially if they were “in contact for years” as Charlie claims.
But let’s say Charlie did indeed get Ray’s blessing to start RPF.... then why wouldn’t he reach out to his next of kin Katherine to say he was thinking of taking the forum in a new direction using the work of Garrett Smith?
Instead he just insists that it’s “what Ray would have wanted” while he slanders him daily and tries to claim the moral high ground. He knows damn well that what he’s doing is unethical on many levels.
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@C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Yes that is what I am thinking, but RP is just part of the larger movement they're trying to discredit: vaccine skepticism, medical health freedom, anti-pharma, etc. Anything which threatens the gov't narrative.
Agree.
Plus occultism.
Satanism.
Pedophilia.
Mass shootings.
9/11.
CERN
HAARP
DEW
Weather manipulation
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@C-Mex I think this guy is legit, people did ask these kinds of questions in the past. But it's clear the whole forum is in process of becoming a giant ad for Smith. Perhaps he offered a better bid than Mercola.
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@Barghest @C-Mex yes this is what I think too. Interesting that Garrett Smith and Erin Elizabeth (Mercola’s wife/gf) have been friendly on twitter... setting the stage for Mercola and any other Peat followers to be blackwashed as insane/dangerous and Garrett to save the day.
Background info on Erin and Mercola here - both pharma agents https://web.archive.org/web/20210623203759/https://www.waronwethepeople.com/sex-drugs-internet-fraud-the-secret-life-of-erin-elizabeth-finn-and-dr-joseph-mercola/
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@C-Mex Bozidar has been having pretty severe health difficulties and he seems to be a real person as it was said above. However I understand why the post set your alarms off. It's a very conveniently formed request.
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Maybe it was the broad nature of 'I've read everything already' and the way Charlie swooped in with ten minutes.
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Very interesting stuff.
Here's a Mercola article from yesterday which includes reference to both Ray Peat and Georgi.
https://takecontrol.substack.com/p/basic-tips-for-optimal-health
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I'm still not sure what to make of Mercola and Erin Elizabeth. I was following her for a short time on Twitter (although I didn't know she was related to Mercola) and one thing about her is that she is just not very bright.
Out of curiosity I found one of those tweets by Erin Elizabeth, and the impession that I got was that Garrett or one of his acolytes had been in contact with her tryiing to get Mercola to interview him (again, trying to hijack/divert from Ray Peat). It will be interesting to see if this happens.
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@C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Very interesting stuff.
Here's a Mercola article from yesterday which includes reference to both Ray Peat and Georgi.
https://takecontrol.substack.com/p/basic-tips-for-optimal-health
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@C-Mex yes she talks all day about vaccine damage and how vaxes cause “covid”. Her role is to reinforce the existence of viruses which as we know the ruling class loves as a fear tactic. She’s also a big promoter of RFK who will argue for the need for “safer” vaccines. As if they could ever be safe or necessary.
This is a good substack and post on the gatekeepers https://dpl003.substack.com/p/the-gatekeepers-club
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So many cringe moments this week.
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@TheSir said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Peatly said in A list of members banned from the Ray Peat Forum:
Not sure why Mephisto has been spared when others got banned for making more benign comments than this
It's due to Charlie's authoritarianism. Mephisto was taunting Charlie with: "just ban me already you prick". Of course, though Charlie most likely did want to ban him, this itch was overridden by his desire to not take orders from anyone.
A similar thing happened when Impero gave him the following ultimatum:
"So, which is it?
Are you taking the True Man of Honor and Integrity Way? (Posting your secret screenshot)
Or the easy way out? (Dropping the hammer)"
To which he replied "both", overriding not only the the isolated desire to simply ban Impero, but also his previous decision to not share more proof. He couldn’t simply ban impero because that would have meant yielding power to Impero's ultimatum. In order to avoid this, he had to additionally go against his own word and show proof despite previously saying that he won't do it.
I think this suggests that Charlie cares more about power than personal integrity.
Update: I am now banned too as a result of this post.
Excellent observations. And quite the patience you had to make them.
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I'm still not really down with the idea this is a top down or sideways thing. It seems to me idiocy is mostly organic. And spookily or not, they tend to find each other in the dark. Birds of a feather and all.
However ya'll are making some compelling observations. And Charlie's bull**** is awfully inconsistent. Why the hell would a flat earther (on Twitter) be talking s**t about "space weather" (on his "forum")...
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@ThinPicking "idiocy is mostly organic" is such a great line! And I think it fits
