New "Mission" of RPF
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@ilovethesea It's obvious. Whatever he interpreted as his version of "the Ray Peat diet" with his limited brain capacity didn't work out for him, and now - instead of taking some responsibility for his own actions - he is angry and lashing out at a dead man, and anyone that questions his latest interpretations of something that is sufficiently simplistic and stupid enough for him to to wrap his head around.
He is incapable of introspection and critical thinking - he is the archetype of the religious zealot that sees his dogmatic, distorted beliefs reflected everywhere and in everyone. He did the same thing with Peat when he projected his religious ideas onto his person and dietary advice.
It was inevitable that he would some day end up with another deluded, completely amoral snakeoil salesman. I am sure that Charlie is not exploiting this as a better business opportunity, he is far too limited for that. I am convinced that he genuinely believes that he is a chosen apostle of the new messiah with their low-toxin-religion. It will be delightful and hilarious to see this thing come crashing down. -
Blossom just posted her own before and after photos as a supposed “advertisement” for how well Garrett Smith’s diet works. I’m sorry to say but I find the after quite shocking.
Before - on Ray Peat diet
After 5 years of Garrett Smith
This is from here https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/ray-peat-and-toxic-bile-theory-in-what-way-do-these-philosophies-differ.52792/
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@Kvothe said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Whatever he interpreted as his version of "the Ray Peat diet" with his limited brain capacity didn't work out for him
I'm at a point where I just genuinely ignore anyone who said they tried a "Ray Peat diet." It tells me they don't comprehend shit. If someone is going to be that retarded when Ray never gave general dietary advice to anyone publicly then they deserve to get fat, miserable, and have issues.
Getting sugar, calcium, salt, protein is a pretty fucking ambiguous idea to me. It encapsulates an almost endless amount of possibilities and variety. Not sure why these morons settle on the most orthorexic shit I've ever seen in my life.
You ask me bro....it's Darwin's theory at work I tell you.
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@ilovethesea That's a pretty drastic change. She was obviously overeating on the "Ray Peat diet." The Garret Smith protocol looks like it did a good job adding 25 years of aging in just 5 years. So I guess in some ways low A approach is quite remarkable...just not in a good way. Aside from her obviously eating less. But in terms of looks she's aged like a marathon runner, or one of those people that's smoked a pack per day for 30 years.
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@Mulloch94 she’s also hiding 60% of her face with her hair in the second image so who knows what edematous horror we may really be looking at here.
I’m honestly open to the idea that some people do benefit from Garrett because they are genuinely Vit A toxic. People who are “eating a Ray Peat diet” with tons of liver, missing the nuance of peat’s liver/A recommendation, etc. I think the notion that this is applicable to everyone is absurd.
I get maybe 50% of my calories and probably close to 70-80% of my protein from whole milk fortified with Vit A palmitate, (not even an ideal source) and I feel 100x better than a few years ago when I was still avoiding dairy and coincidentally eating more or less exactly what Smith advocates for now. (Rice & muscle meat were all my digestive system could tolerate)
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@ilovethesea The only remaining plotline that interests me is how long @haidut is going to endure the humiliation of biting his tongue to appease these morons, or whether he will sell out (i.e. "help people") by doing business in some way with Garrett Smith. Insofar as he stays quiet it is basically an endorsement of the latter, as Charlie is now nothing more than a mouthpiece for Garrett Smith (if not literally him).
As for the rest of the new forum content, like apocalyptic prophecies about April 8, nothing will happen and they will then make some excuse and continue incoherently rambling. That's fine. Let all the illiterates congregate there and degenerate on their own little internet island.
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oooof charlie is seething, just lol
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@Peatful how does one drive cancer deeper into the body? I was wondering this yesterday. A lot of mysticism around the anti-vitamin A crowd.
Based on what Garrett looks like, I have a feeling the bottom is going to fall out in a few years. I also suspect he doesn't follow his advice to a "t." I hope many people aren't hurt in the "detox" stage.
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If you remember Tara at RPF, during the COVID Hoax years, she came to defend the COVID vax. Since I remember my start at RPF with Tara as embracing the side of Peat that favored a healthy lifestyle based primarily on good nutrition, I viewed her in a very positive light. That changed when her representation at the forum turned into a reverse mirrored image of her alter ego. I suspected her online self was hijacked, and not long after she no longer was a member, even thoufh at one time she served as an admin. The true Charlie was still firmly at the helm, and tara was gone - presumably banned.
The problem with being anonymous and hiding behind a handle is that it is not inconceivable that the powers that be could hijack the persona of the main admin, disposing of the original real person behind the persona. It isn't far-fetched to see this happen to Charlie's online persona.
As much as I've come to dislike the original owner of the Charlie online persona, I don't think he would have allowed RPF to sway from its original mission. I'm afraid that site has been hijacked recently, which would explain the inconceivable transpiring now at RPF. So much member posts and shared knowledge on bioenergetics and allied disciplines are stored there, and eradicating it is favorable to the powers that be. It would be a big loss if all of that treasure trove would simply be wiped out.
Am I alone in thinking a deeper conspiracy is at the heart of RPF's recent change in direction? If what I fear is true, what can be done by @brad in preventing a future RPF-style meltdown?
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
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@risingfire pseudo medical talk. Baseless.
Demonic spirit of greed.
Pride…
Anger…Can’t believe they think so little of Peat.
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@yerrag Tara was a nurse. Therein was the (CVid) problem imo. Medical indoctrination.
One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.
-DB
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@ilovethesea That's what he said. But it actually means, "I always hated smart people. They trigger my shame. I had to ride the short bus and everyone bullied me for being so dumb. I feel so much better with my power to put smart people in their place."
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@saturnuscv Yeah but that's just common sense. Something I see utterly lacking on the RPF. Vitamin toxicity is a real thing...toxic vitamins aren't.
It's important to understand the psyche of your average forum user. They're either trying to sell you something, so the grift is never up and it's always changing. Or they're hypochondriac, always plagued by a mysterious illness that never quite gets cured no matter what they do.
The Mike Fave dude for example, pretty much demolished the "toxin A" theory. What was the comments about it on the RPF? They were like "uhhh, well, he looks yellow to me!" Yeah no, it's called being tan retard. I guess a pale corpse is considered healthy now. Kinda wished more people would post before/afters like Blossum. See how they compare to Mike and Danny, both of which look far better than anyone I've seen in the toxin A crowd.
Of course l don't want to get too hung up on anecdotes here, because that's precisely what this toxin A crowd loves doing. Still though, I don't think they can even claim the anecdotes are in their favor when you have people like Danny who's in his mid 30s looking better than your average 27 year old.
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@yerrag I'm not sure that a new Charlie is at the helm. Charlie has evolved quite a bit over the years. I saw the biggest change(besides low VA) when he became the "Law and Order Admin." I doubt he would severely change up the forum like he has now unless there was significant financial incentive for him to do so.
I'm not sure if it's traffic to Garrett's site for customers which most likely wouldn't pay that much.
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@Peatful Charles has bounced from one idealogy to the next rather quickly over the years. To slander Peat like this is beyond excessive.
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@ilovethesea Both pictures are alarming.
I don't know how that much weight gain can be blamed on Ray Peat.
When I was over-training aikido, I looked like the 2nd picture. I was a little more ripped meat suit on a waif skeleton. Veiny arms and hands. Kinda Iggy Pop face.
When I switched from Jaminet IF - mostly paleo to Peat's ideas, I did gain some weight. But I look a zillion times healthier. My face or arms or legs did not put on any weight. My skeleton got more mass. People started telling me I looked like Brooke Shields with more squared off jaw and thicker eyebrows and bright face. I put weight on in my skeleton, boobs, hips, butt and a little too much in the abdomen. Here is me now. No surgery. No fillers. I don't exercise beyond gardening at the moment. I am 62.
Considering going from low-carb + way over-training to eating carbs freely (to taste. I don't have an eating disorder. I just eat when I am hungry. And I eat what I crave. KISS. )--and stopping exhaustive exercise. I was pretty amazed that re-feeding could be so pleasant.
I plan on choosing a local exercise class--maybe barre or pilates type level. So i think I will trim a little bit more. But I have zero desire to look like Iggy Pop again.
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@Regina Beautiful!
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@Regina I'm glad you were able to establish a healthy equilibrium for yourself. I think a lot of people believe it's a joke when long distance runners are compared to smokers in terms of accelerated aging, but it's actually true. Overtraining ages people fast! Especially when combined with under eating. You didn't supply a before shot, but I would guess whatever you're doing is working. I can't believe you're 62, you look stunning. Wish you well on your future endeavors.
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@ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Blossom just posted her own before and after photos as a supposed “advertisement” for how well Garrett Smith’s diet works. I’m sorry to say but I find the after quite shocking.
Before - on Ray Peat diet
After 5 years of Garrett Smith
This is from here https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/ray-peat-and-toxic-bile-theory-in-what-way-do-these-philosophies-differ.52792/
It would be really helpful if we knew exactly what she was doing in her version of the “Ray Peat diet” wasn’t she on estrogen at one point? – Definitely not peaty. This massive weight loss has been achieved by periods of fasting. This is not just a low vitamin A diet this is also extreme dieting. Extreme weight loss can have a down side. As the saying goes........
