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    • ChudC
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      • LewL
        Lew
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        I got pubertal gyno which I started addressing almost year ago with raloxifene. There was at best 10% improvement after single month cycle. With this method be ready for mood swings and decrease of libido. During that year I also focused on things mentioned before like thyroid, calcium, D, K, aspirin which probably contributed to my actual state which is 60% volume from last year. But in my subjective opinion I noticed bigger correction after applying dth 9mg/week +andro 9mg/week scortally for more than 2 months at this point, which I will continue.

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        • GreekDemiGodG
          GreekDemiGod @peatilian
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          @peatilian Just DHT? Doesn't it crash your T levels and you're obliged to take TRT?

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            peatilian @GreekDemiGod
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            @GreekDemiGod said in Getting rid of gyno:

            @peatilian Just DHT? Doesn't it crash your T levels and you're obliged to take TRT?

            False.

            DHT has so little effect on the HPGA (Hypothalamic–pituitary–gonadal axis) that it causes 0 recognizable testosterone production suppresion. Androsterone does not cause any HPGA suppression either.

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            • DakotaD
              Dakota
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              Any lingering gyno I had was solved with progesterone and red light.

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              • DakotaD
                Dakota @raccoonmilk
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                @raccoonmilk DM if you are interested in a source. The CAS number + Yandex may also do the trick.

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                  NoFapPeating @eatfan
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                  @eatfan Abstain from PMO for 30 days and get back to me

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                  • skywxlkerS
                    skywxlker
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                    Where do I get dht?

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                    • CornelyanC
                      Cornelyan
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                      In a more auxialliary manner try rubbing some coocnut oil of the breast area to saturate it, I don't recomand going full androsterone since it can convert to estrogen at a rate influenced by the presence of PUFAs

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                        retard
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                        Would exemestane + topical DHT work better than either of them alone?

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                        • NisoKTNUN
                          NisoKTNU
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                          If you have legitimate gyno there is nothing you can do to get rid of it other than surgery. Things like raloxifine only temporarily reduce size with some bad side effects, if there is no glandular development then maybe DHT etc can reduce the puffy-nes

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                          • Hando-JinH
                            Hando-Jin @eatfan
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                            @eatfan is it actual mammary tissue or fat cells? You can tell under ultrasound

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                            • NeigherN
                              Neigher @peatilian
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                              @peatilian I am interested in solving test and dht into dmso. What is the procedure?

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                              • duganD
                                dugan
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                                It’s my theory that after a certain point in the development of gyno, enough fat tissue accumulates at the site to have significant local aromatization. Topically applied DHT, androsterone, and vitamin E should help reduce the affects of estrogen in the area.

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                                  saturnmissiles
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                                  I’ve only dealt with puffy gyno and really anything lowering estrogen/increasing DHT (even transdermal dhea) shrinks it down completely but using one bottle of andro on them 1mg each a day seems to have removed most of the stubborn fat tissue that was underneath. I smoked some weed a few days ago and it came back for a few hours my nips are like instant estrogen detectors.

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                                  • peatilianP
                                    peatilian @Neigher
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                                    @Neigher said in Getting rid of gyno:

                                    @peatilian I am interested in solving test and dht into dmso. What is the procedure?

                                    No clue I purchased already solved. Check out alphagels on twitter/reddit if you don’t want to mix yourself.

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                                    • donovanD
                                      donovan @eatfan
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                                      @eatfan not sure why anyone in this thread hasn’t mentioned p5p (vit b6 form), that is even used by bodybuilders to reduce prolactin. 150mg for a week tapered down to 50mg anytime i get any symptoms of high prolactin did it for me.

                                      Safety and Efficacy of High-Dose Vitamin B6 as an Adjunctive Treatment for Antipsychotic-Induced Hyperprolactinemia in Male Patients With Treatment-Resistant Schizophrenia

                                      The Role of Vitamin B6 in Reducing Serum Prolactin in Comparison to Cabergoline

                                      p5p was compared to cabergoline, which is the drug often prescribed to reduce Gynecomastia, as well as used often by bodybuilders to reduce chances of gynecomastia from increased prolactin. Also, dirt cheap. Look into p5p.

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                                        eatfan @Hando-Jin
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                                        @Hando-Jin it’s more puffy - hence it might be fixable by addressing estrogen & prolactin excess?

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                                          eatfan @Lew
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                                          @Lew thanks for the reply - seems like andro/dht might be the way to go. How much aspirin and vit k are you taking?

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                                            eatfan @donovan
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                                            @donovan great stuff thanks - I’m pretty sure it’s a GABA agonist if I remember correctly, another reason to supplement so thanks I’ll look into it.

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