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      Peatful @LucyJ
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      @LucyJ said in Is this estrogen?:

      @Peatful
      I do struggle with a lack of appetite and trying to eat enough each day. I am eating a lot more than previously and a lot of fruit juice. Mostly I have to force food down and could easily skip meals.

      I have a nutritionist who's helped a lot. B vitamins have helped. Currently trying to do higher doses of thiamine (under her direction) as I have pots and dysautonomia type symptoms. Also likely celiac.

      For context my health feel off the rails post a course of amoxicillin 15 years ago. Majorly underweight and didn't grow normally as a child but no issues with school or sports or socialising. Heart rate consistently low approx 55 bpm.

      But my gut is my weak link and has been since I was a kid

      Imo
      Opinion….

      You should concentrate here

      Fix this and other things will resolve

      The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

      SD

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        LucyJ @Jennifer
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        @Jennifer no not underweight anymore. Upper body is just a bit thin but lower body normal.
        Both, sometimes no appetite but a lot of time just so meh about foods I tolerate and no desire to have eg a smoothie. Any tips on the meh?

        I have read you took 3 grains of WP to heal and I do think my pituitary is causing a lot of issues. (the excess serotonin in my gut seems to mess with my pituitary and i get hyper reactions to eg thiamine yesterday)
        Currently on 1 grain

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          Jennifer @LucyJ
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          Oh, good, @LucyJ. I thought maybe I was mistaken about you being weight restored when we spoke privately. NDT was one of the tools I used to heal, yes. Do you mind listing the foods you currently tolerate? Maybe we can come up with some ideas for tasty meals. For food fatigue, and healing in general, I’m a fan of traditional, low residue meals abundant in all 3 macros and salt, i.e., “comfort food.”

          I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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            LucyJ @Jennifer
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            @Jennifer
            It's seems to vary based on how inflamed my gut is. Today probably only lactose free milk, fruit juice, ox tail broth, skyr yoghurt, fish, meat (I think), eggs, honey.

            So I think I'm going to try make custard and jelly with fish gelatin (I don't tolerate beef gelatin) and see if that can get me eating more! Fingers crossed I don't get an endotoxin reaction from fish gelatin.

            Do you think ondansetron would be worth trying? The gut irritation is pretty bad at the moment.

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              DavidPS
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              Have you considered Saccharomyces Boulardii Probiotics?

              Here is a presentation that explains its utility for gut permutability.

              https://www.omicsgroup.com/conferences/ACS/conference/speaker_ppt/16113-Speaker-ppt.pdf

              This product at Amazon explains how to ferment organic applesauce and organic apple juice from capsules to make it more cost effective.

              https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JK30A1M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A98IYZBO3C56&th=1

              Best of luck. I am at the airport waiting for my flight.

              Don't separate work and play; it is all play. 👀
              ☂️

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                Jennifer @LucyJ
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                @LucyJ, regarding the gut inflammation and ondansetron, did I understand you correctly that you’re currently taking 1 grain of thyroid daily? Do you know what your temp (including extremities—feet, hands, nose and ears) and pulse rate average first thing in the morning, just before eating and 20–30 minutes after eating? There’s no doubt that your limited diet can be contributing to your low appetite but given that, your digestive complaints, unexplained infertility and pots, if you do take thyroid, I’m wondering if you may need to increase your dose?

                Whenever my appetite and digestive strength wane, it’s usually a sign I need to increase my thyroid dose, and it’s been the same for every person I’ve cared for who takes thyroid. Just as an example, I spent most of this past year in the kitchen cooking up a storm for my dad and had him trialing digestive aids because he didn’t have an appetite and complained that food just sat in his stomach. Come to find out, he was only taking half the amount of thyroid I had advised him to take. After doubling his dose, his appetite was back and he was digesting his food well.

                I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                  dapose
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                  I’d cut the dose of you b vitamin in half and less frequent when you’re struggling. Until you can eat more food. Your taking higher dose thiamine? That’s making your cells use up your glycogen quicker ie you crash sooner.
                  Drink a coke when that happens… co2 plus sugar plus caffeine = good times.
                  Some Bioenergetic folks recommend smaller doses of b vitamins more frequently like dissolving a pill in water and sipping throughout the day. Georgi talks about high doses but then skipping days. Hitting the system hard but then backing off.
                  Experiment, and good luck!
                  🌞🌲💫

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                    LucyJ @dapose
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                    @dapose This really makes sense. That's currently what's happening and my sleep is wrecked. I keep waking at 3 am and can't get back to sleep for at lest an hour. I was planning on not taking any today because I feel so over stimulated so thanks for this message

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                      LucyJ @Jennifer
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                      @Jennifer Yes 1 grain. Resting pulse in am 60pbm, temp 36 degrees Celsius. Feet usually cold.

                      I increased my dose half a grain the other day and my pulse got lower??

                      I think I do need more but keep being told I have to increase calories first? what are your thoughts on this?

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                        dapose @LucyJ
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                        @LucyJ I’m a big fan of a small glass of grape juice fallowed by a small glass of baking soda water right before bed! It works! Like 6-7oz each. Put 1/2 tsp of baking soda in the water and stir. This helps a lot of people. Grape juice isn’t essential so you could do chamomile tea with big spoon of honey for example… basicly your liver glycogen is running out in the middle of the night and your brain requires it so then your spiking cortisol to make more blood sugar which makes you wide awake so… you should look into ways of improving liver function and storage of glycogen. Taurine and glycine lowering stress adequate protein in the diet for liver function.
                        Yay!

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