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    • beriberiB
      beriberi @lobotomize
      last edited by beriberi

      @lobotomize Try more Choline, Potassium, Magnesium, Zinc, A, D3, TTFD/Benfotiamine, B2, B5, Methyl folate, Methyl B12 and TMG if you can tolerate methyl donors, Creatine to spare methyl groups and potentially 2-4 grains of thyroid hormone

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      • beriberiB
        beriberi @beriberi
        last edited by beriberi

        if you take thyroid hormone you also are going to have to eat liver or supplement vitamin A, because your thyroid hormone status determines your vitamin A requirements, and speaking from experience i can take hundreds of milligrams of TTFD or Benfotiamine whilst hypothyroid and it'll do nothing except prevent severe deficiency symptoms. to enter oxidative metabolism and actually properly utilize nutrients you need thiamine thyroid hormone and additional nutritional cofactors in sufficient amounts to process carbohydrates fats and proteins efficiently, otherwise you are wasting calories due to being in lower forms of metabolism

        it should not be calories in vs calories out but calories potentialized vs calories actualized

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          user2 @lobotomize
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          @lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

          So I realized that after five months on this diet of milk mixed with glucose and some other ingredients, whenever I go without milk or glucose for a while, I suddenly become a lot funnier, more dopaminergic, and more playful.

          I thought Peat said the calcium in milk negates the downsides of large tryptophan intake. Does anyone know how I can prevent the serotonergic rise?

          I suggest try milk on its own, no added carbs, potentially try whole milk and raw milk, and if you still feel the same, either try to other foods maxing in case you are running low on certains nutrients and the milk might contribute, or dont drink milk at all

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          • ottoO
            otto
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            Have you tried adding calcium carbonate to other components of your meal? I am thinking about Haidut's Bulgarian burger.
            Youtube Video

            All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

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            • lobotomizeL
              lobotomize @beriberi
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              @beriberi i take t3 and i believe thiamine hcl passes the membrane through passive diffusion aswell so if you are deficient and take 500 you get 250 as the b1 stabilizes on both sides

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              • lobotomizeL
                lobotomize @beriberi
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                @beriberi milk has potassium i drop 30 ml mgcl on myself almost every day, i restarted taken zinc recently after taking probably too much liver , d3 i take 5k every 2 days , i take thiamine hcl reffer to my reasoning on my other reply, i stopped taking b2 as it caused me diahria from bile acid getting deconjugated plus my exam scores when taking it were suprisingly low i am yet to investigate if the problem was something else , b5 is abundent in milk , i may try methyl fol. i take creatine and thyroid

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                • lobotomizeL
                  lobotomize @user2
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                  @user2 i constantly get hungry if i dont add carbs to it. plus milks has too much liquid be a solo carb source

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                    user2 @lobotomize
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                    @lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

                    @user2 i constantly get hungry if i dont add carbs to it. plus milks has too much liquid be a solo carb source

                    Do you drink it warm or cold? Do you lie down or do stuffs after you drink milk? No, milk doesnt have to much liquid at all to be a solo carb source Milk+sugar/honey/starch can be terrible, adding these carbs to it can just exacerbate defiencies.

                    everything i told above about milk is relevant, i suggest experiment with that

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                    • beriberiB
                      beriberi @lobotomize
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                      @lobotomize how much thyroid

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                      • beriberiB
                        beriberi @lobotomize
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                        @lobotomize this doesn’t happen in my experience, either way your thyroid status determines how you respond to minerals and vitamins. Thyroid hormone replacement is the equivalent of 96mcgs of t3 produced every day from t4-t3 conversion and t3 production

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                        • beriberiB
                          beriberi @lobotomize
                          last edited by beriberi

                          @lobotomize

                          feels like shit from eating carbs
                          hungry if he doesn’t eat more carbs

                          This is literally just malnutrition

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                            user2 @lobotomize
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                            @lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

                            So I realized that after five months on this diet of milk mixed with glucose and some other ingredients, whenever I go without milk or glucose for a while, I suddenly become a lot funnier, more dopaminergic, and more playful.

                            I thought Peat said the calcium in milk negates the downsides of large tryptophan intake. Does anyone know how I can prevent the serotonergic rise?

                            @lobotomize said in Lobotomize-me athletic logs:

                            lowering fat intake has been a game changer for me. drank 8 liters of 1.5% milk a day -> bananas and 0.1% fat milk a day liver once a week and some supplements. started finally losing weight hopefully it was the change i needed to finally become lean

                            Just seen this, this is troll diet medium long term, no meat, bananas is a B+ tier fruit at best even ripe, skimmed milk has worst effects than whole or raw milk in my experience, most beef liver are toxic, can worsen your digestion and dont necessary have the benefits you can get from eating meat. do you eat any salt?

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                            • lobotomizeL
                              lobotomize @beriberi
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                              @beriberi i dont feel like shit i just feel a lot better when i eat carbs in a different form for a while and i am trying to understand why

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                              • lobotomizeL
                                lobotomize @beriberi
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                                @beriberi i take 12.5 mcg every hour or so or when i get cold. close to 100 mcg a day

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                                • lobotomizeL
                                  lobotomize @user2
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                                  @user2 i drink it at room temp

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                                  • lobotomizeL
                                    lobotomize @user2
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                                    @user2 to get 300 g carbs from milk i will need 10 liters

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                                    • lobotomizeL
                                      lobotomize @user2
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                                      @user2 i stopped eating bananas after 3 weeks of this diet because it made me sick for the first time in 2 years (probably because the histamine). i also had to stop the 0.1 milk and return to 1.5 % because the only lactose free option was 1.5 . but i will be receiving a pallet shipment with 0.1 lactose free milk next week

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                                      • lobotomizeL
                                        lobotomize @user2
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                                        @user2 said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
                                        i take skimmed milk fat prevents glucose oxidation

                                        do you eat any salt?

                                        yes.

                                        i have also reduced my beef liver intake dramatically . i

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                                          user2 @lobotomize
                                          last edited by user2

                                          @lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

                                          @user2 said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
                                          i take skimmed milk fat prevents glucose oxidation

                                          You are to much into robot-thinking, same on your log," fat prevent glucose oxydation" thats science lore, it prove/disprove nothing, just try raw milk or whole milk and see if you feel better compare to skimmed milk

                                          do you eat any salt?

                                          yes.

                                          i have also reduced my beef liver intake dramatically

                                          If the liver smell bad and taste bad with out seasoning and you dont crave it intake should be 0 grams

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                                          • beriberiB
                                            beriberi @lobotomize
                                            last edited by beriberi

                                            @lobotomize when I took this much t3 alone at the same frequency I experienced depleting my thiamine stores extremely fast leading to severe deficiency symptoms, try cynoplus at ~50mcg t3 and 200mcg t4~ split up so there is some peripheral conversion happening all throughout the day, because you are going hyperthyroid during the waking hours and depleting your thiamine, and then going hypothyroid in the middle of the night as T3’s short half life is 3-6 hours

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