glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic
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@user2 i constantly get hungry if i dont add carbs to it. plus milks has too much liquid be a solo carb source
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@lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
@user2 i constantly get hungry if i dont add carbs to it. plus milks has too much liquid be a solo carb source
Do you drink it warm or cold? Do you lie down or do stuffs after you drink milk? No, milk doesnt have to much liquid at all to be a solo carb source Milk+sugar/honey/starch can be terrible, adding these carbs to it can just exacerbate defiencies.
everything i told above about milk is relevant, i suggest experiment with that
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@lobotomize how much thyroid
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@lobotomize this doesn’t happen in my experience, either way your thyroid status determines how you respond to minerals and vitamins. Thyroid hormone replacement is the equivalent of 96mcgs of t3 produced every day from t4-t3 conversion and t3 production
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feels like shit from eating carbs
hungry if he doesn’t eat more carbsThis is literally just malnutrition
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@lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
So I realized that after five months on this diet of milk mixed with glucose and some other ingredients, whenever I go without milk or glucose for a while, I suddenly become a lot funnier, more dopaminergic, and more playful.
I thought Peat said the calcium in milk negates the downsides of large tryptophan intake. Does anyone know how I can prevent the serotonergic rise?
@lobotomize said in Lobotomize-me athletic logs:
lowering fat intake has been a game changer for me. drank 8 liters of 1.5% milk a day -> bananas and 0.1% fat milk a day liver once a week and some supplements. started finally losing weight hopefully it was the change i needed to finally become lean
Just seen this, this is troll diet medium long term, no meat, bananas is a B+ tier fruit at best even ripe, skimmed milk has worst effects than whole or raw milk in my experience, most beef liver are toxic, can worsen your digestion and dont necessary have the benefits you can get from eating meat. do you eat any salt?
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@beriberi i dont feel like shit i just feel a lot better when i eat carbs in a different form for a while and i am trying to understand why
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@beriberi i take 12.5 mcg every hour or so or when i get cold. close to 100 mcg a day
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@user2 i drink it at room temp
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@user2 to get 300 g carbs from milk i will need 10 liters
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@user2 i stopped eating bananas after 3 weeks of this diet because it made me sick for the first time in 2 years (probably because the histamine). i also had to stop the 0.1 milk and return to 1.5 % because the only lactose free option was 1.5 . but i will be receiving a pallet shipment with 0.1 lactose free milk next week
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@user2 said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
i take skimmed milk fat prevents glucose oxidationdo you eat any salt?
yes.
i have also reduced my beef liver intake dramatically . i
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@lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
@user2 said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
i take skimmed milk fat prevents glucose oxidationYou are to much into robot-thinking, same on your log," fat prevent glucose oxydation" thats science lore, it prove/disprove nothing, just try raw milk or whole milk and see if you feel better compare to skimmed milk
do you eat any salt?
yes.
i have also reduced my beef liver intake dramatically
If the liver smell bad and taste bad with out seasoning and you dont crave it intake should be 0 grams
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@lobotomize when I took this much t3 alone at the same frequency I experienced depleting my thiamine stores extremely fast leading to severe deficiency symptoms, try cynoplus at ~50mcg t3 and 200mcg t4~ split up so there is some peripheral conversion happening all throughout the day, because you are going hyperthyroid during the waking hours and depleting your thiamine, and then going hypothyroid in the middle of the night as T3’s short half life is 3-6 hours
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@lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
i take t3
When taking synthetic T3 or T4, you can't manage well after a period 'cause you lack cofactors for deiodinase enzymes.
If there is not an adequate supply of nutrients to optimize the functioning of the deiodinase enzymes DIO 1 DIO 2 and especially DIO 3, the improvement will be very often temporary / provisional.
I can develop or give a link if interested. -
@lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
@user2 i drink it at room temp
Room temp in winter isnt optimal, i suggest try warming it if its cold where you are at
@lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
@user2 to get 300 g carbs from milk i will need 10 liters
You dont have to get 300g carbs a day, these numbers dont matter
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@user2 said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
You are to much into robot-thinking, same on your log," fat prevent glucose oxydation" thats science lore, it prove/disprove nothing, just try raw milk or whole milk and see if you feel better compare to skimmed milk
i gained 20 kg in half a year doing that
@beriberi said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
s extremely fast leading to severe deficiency symptoms, try cynoplus at ~50mcg t3 and 200mcg t4~ split up so there is some peripheral conversion happening all throughout the day, because you are going hyperthyroid during the waking hours and depleting your thiamine, and then going hypothyroid in the middle of the night as T3’s short half life is 3-6 hours
if i take t4 i get high rt3 because i train often . do you know maybe where one can find thiamine in bulk the only source i found was 100g for 20-30 euros
@LucH said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
When taking synthetic T3 or T4, you can't manage well after a period 'cause you lack cofactors for deiodinase enzymes.
If there is not an adequate supply of nutrients to optimize the functioning of the deiodinase enzymes DIO 1 DIO 2 and especially DIO 3, the improvement will be very often temporary / provisional.
I can develop or give a link if interestedonly cofactors i found are selenium and a couple of enzymes. i take brazil nuts occasionally
@user2 said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
Room temp in winter isnt optimal, i suggest try warming it if its cold where you are at
i cannot constantly heat 450 ml milk 15 times a day especially when i am on campus
@user2 said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
You dont have to get 300g carbs a day, these numbers dont matter
what do you expect me to create atp from? 300 is the minimum i am aiming for a lot higher than that
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b3 Seems to be able to stop my nose drying up which was caused by the milk and glucose
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@lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
only cofactors i found are selenium and a couple of enzymes. i take brazil nuts occasionally
Not enough. You should have asked for more info:
- Required nutrients for immediate optimal function of the thyroid.
- Which interference to avoid if the thyroid receptors are not free.
Open a new post if you want details and leave a link here.
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Peat fundamentals:
1.) Milk can be one of the hardest to digest. So it is often the last thing many people can add back into their diet. Try anything that scrubs bacteria out of the small intestine. granulated charcoal, carrot, well boiled mushrooms (more fine blend, more potent), bamboo shoots (least effective imo), and oatBRAN.
2.) There is potential that it’s got an unlisted I ingredient, or inflammatory food in the cows diet, that is causing issues, so if you want, try all the clean milk you have access to.
This is going to be the case for any foods you are struggling to digest. It can be persnickety. Danny mentions how one friend finally took a bottle of protest-e (not suggesting anyone try this), and he suddenly became tolerant of milk again, most likely via the positive impact on liver metabolism.
PS, pro-metabolic substances (especially one that heals the liver like t3), could be the thing that moves the dial for some.
