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    • LucHL Online
      LucH @lobotomize
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      @lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

      i take t3

      When taking synthetic T3 or T4, you can't manage well after a period 'cause you lack cofactors for deiodinase enzymes.
      If there is not an adequate supply of nutrients to optimize the functioning of the deiodinase enzymes DIO 1 DIO 2 and especially DIO 3, the improvement will be very often temporary / provisional.
      I can develop or give a link if interested.

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        @lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

        @user2 i drink it at room temp

        Room temp in winter isnt optimal, i suggest try warming it if its cold where you are at

        @lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

        @user2 to get 300 g carbs from milk i will need 10 liters

        You dont have to get 300g carbs a day, these numbers dont matter

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          lobotomize @Guest
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          @user2 said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

          You are to much into robot-thinking, same on your log," fat prevent glucose oxydation" thats science lore, it prove/disprove nothing, just try raw milk or whole milk and see if you feel better compare to skimmed milk

          i gained 20 kg in half a year doing that

          @beriberi said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

          s extremely fast leading to severe deficiency symptoms, try cynoplus at ~50mcg t3 and 200mcg t4~ split up so there is some peripheral conversion happening all throughout the day, because you are going hyperthyroid during the waking hours and depleting your thiamine, and then going hypothyroid in the middle of the night as T3’s short half life is 3-6 hours

          if i take t4 i get high rt3 because i train often . do you know maybe where one can find thiamine in bulk the only source i found was 100g for 20-30 euros

          @LucH said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

          When taking synthetic T3 or T4, you can't manage well after a period 'cause you lack cofactors for deiodinase enzymes.
          If there is not an adequate supply of nutrients to optimize the functioning of the deiodinase enzymes DIO 1 DIO 2 and especially DIO 3, the improvement will be very often temporary / provisional.
          I can develop or give a link if interested

          only cofactors i found are selenium and a couple of enzymes. i take brazil nuts occasionally

          @user2 said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

          Room temp in winter isnt optimal, i suggest try warming it if its cold where you are at

          i cannot constantly heat 450 ml milk 15 times a day especially when i am on campus

          @user2 said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

          You dont have to get 300g carbs a day, these numbers dont matter

          what do you expect me to create atp from? 300 is the minimum i am aiming for a lot higher than that

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          • lobotomizeL Offline
            lobotomize
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            b3 Seems to be able to stop my nose drying up which was caused by the milk and glucose

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            • LucHL Online
              LucH @lobotomize
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              @lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

              only cofactors i found are selenium and a couple of enzymes. i take brazil nuts occasionally

              Not enough. You should have asked for more info:

              • Required nutrients for immediate optimal function of the thyroid.
              • Which interference to avoid if the thyroid receptors are not free.
                Open a new post if you want details and leave a link here. 👶
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                LetTheRedeemed
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                Peat fundamentals:

                1.) Milk can be one of the hardest to digest. So it is often the last thing many people can add back into their diet. Try anything that scrubs bacteria out of the small intestine. granulated charcoal, carrot, well boiled mushrooms (more fine blend, more potent), bamboo shoots (least effective imo), and oatBRAN.

                2.) There is potential that it’s got an unlisted I ingredient, or inflammatory food in the cows diet, that is causing issues, so if you want, try all the clean milk you have access to.

                This is going to be the case for any foods you are struggling to digest. It can be persnickety. Danny mentions how one friend finally took a bottle of protest-e (not suggesting anyone try this), and he suddenly became tolerant of milk again, most likely via the positive impact on liver metabolism.

                PS, pro-metabolic substances (especially one that heals the liver like t3), could be the thing that moves the dial for some.

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                  ethan @lobotomize
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                  @lobotomize do you have labs showing you have high rt3? I take 200mcg of t4 and I have no symptoms of high rt3, get enough selenium from diet and don’t eat more than 4g of pufa and you are fine

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                    lobotomize @ethan
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                    @beriberi when i took 25mcg t3 100 t4 i was dumb and agile as a brick - my exam scores tanked, and my soccer abilities weren't floating either. once i switched to t3 only my soccer performance skyrocketed and i started heating up to a point in which i feel fine outside in the German winter with no clothes on.

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                      sunsunsun @lobotomize
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                      @lobotomize at least you arent speaking German

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                        lobotomize @sunsunsun
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                        @sunsunsun This is the second time you’ve used that joke.

                        The first time, no one understood it. What makes you think Im suddenly enlightened and would get it now?

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                          Luke @lobotomize
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                          @lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

                          @sunsunsun This is the second time you’ve used that joke.

                          The first time, no one understood it. What makes you think Im suddenly enlightened and would get it now?

                          Wenigstens hat er den Witz diesmal nicht auf Deutsch gemacht.

                          I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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                              @lobotomize listen to the first line of this song on repeat Youtube Video

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                                ethan @lobotomize
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                                @lobotomize Since trying thiamine HCL again i have found i need 2 grams (500mg split 4x) a day for symptom relief, as ttfd and benfotiamine are inconsistent when i don't eat dietary fat. since our thyroid doses are similar you could try more than 500mg once a day.

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                                  lobotomize @ethan
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                                  @ethan i take 900 mg benfo a day, separated into 3 doses

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                                    ethan @lobotomize
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                                    @lobotomize like i said its inconsistent if you dont eat alot of fat

                                    also you should have severe over dose symptoms at that dose of thiamine alongside your thyroid. are you sure your thyroid is legit?

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                                      lobotomize @ethan
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                                      @ethan @ethan said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

                                      like i said its inconsistent if you dont eat alot of fat

                                      👍 agreed

                                      @ethan said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:

                                      also you should have severe over dose symptoms at that dose of thiamine alongside your thyroid. are you sure your thyroid is legit?

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                                      The only indicators I have that my T3 is legit are that I get hot after taking it, I can’t sleep if I take it too late and most interestingly, I’ve noticed that when I take it right before or during a game or presentation, I’ll have a 10–30 minute window where I perform exceptionally well. Often, I’ll even forget I took it and only realize afterward that the T3 was likely the reason for that sudden performance leap

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                                        ethan @lobotomize
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                                        @lobotomize what brand of thyroid, for me when i take thyroid before bed it helps me sleep very well, maybe you have some deficiency

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                                          lobotomize @ethan
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                                          @ethan tiromel from bgpharma.

                                          to be more exact, when i take it 30 minutes before bed, I'm fine, but if i wake up in the middle of the night and take 12.5 mcg i cannot fall asleep for 0.5 to 1 hour

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                                            ethan @lobotomize
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                                            @lobotomize i stopped using abdi ibrahim thyroid products as they are too inconsistent with their effects, they work but they are random

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