Defanging your computer
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@insufferable said in Defanging your computer:
My iphone screen actually feels less harmful to the eye than my laptop screen. Maybe it doesn't flicker so much. But I'm sure it's very bad too. I really only need a small amount of iphone time sprinkled through the day. It takes 5 seconds to text, maybe you send 50 texts, that's like 4 minutes total per day, broken into very brief exposures.
You can use programs like scrcpy to control your phone with the computer.
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@insufferable said in Defanging your computer:
Light and the dopamine it does or doesn't stimulate is also responsible for near-sightedness. Outdoor light stimulates dopamine in the eye, which for some reason is what prevents the elongation of the eyeball which is the reason for near-sightedness. (myopia)
Also do you have a source for this, dopamine preventing elongation of the eye? We need to test out dopamanergic eyedrops
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@insufferable said in Defanging your computer:
I don't want to get pinned down to just "it's the blue light that's bad." There's just something incredibly Wrong with these unnatural lights, beyond the red/blue thing. Very sensitive people on the ledstrain forum talk about how they wear red glasses, deal with the light flicker problem, and still they get terrible migraines and so on from their screens and modern lights
On the old forum there is a thread called "nothing in life comes free", it might interest you. From what I remember, it's not just light but EMF that will enter your eyes, and since your eyes are an extension of your brain, the EMF will easily enter your brain. The harmful effects happen all the way to quantum level where the spin of electrons is affected, meaning that you can't really completely mitigate it in any way other than stopping exposure to it.
Anyway, great thread. I'm probably going to buy an e ink screen soon too.
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Has anyone seen daylight computer co?
They look quite interesting. There is also an interview with the CEO on YT which was great.
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@AstralPMP said in Defanging your computer:
@insufferable Have you tried using a small grounding mat while you are on the computer?
Theoretically, it would be a great way to get some grounding time in but I am concerned about how it might interact with multiple electronics nearby.
I don't know much about that, sorry.
@basebolt said in Defanging your computer:
@insufferable said in Defanging your computer:
My iphone screen actually feels less harmful to the eye than my laptop screen. Maybe it doesn't flicker so much. But I'm sure it's very bad too. I really only need a small amount of iphone time sprinkled through the day. It takes 5 seconds to text, maybe you send 50 texts, that's like 4 minutes total per day, broken into very brief exposures.
You can use programs like scrcpy to control your phone with the computer.
Great tip thank you!
My Dasung e-ink screen actually says I can plug my iphone into it. I just haven't bothered to do it yet.
@basebolt said in Defanging your computer:
@insufferable said in Defanging your computer:
Light and the dopamine it does or doesn't stimulate is also responsible for near-sightedness. Outdoor light stimulates dopamine in the eye, which for some reason is what prevents the elongation of the eyeball which is the reason for near-sightedness. (myopia)
Also do you have a source for this, dopamine preventing elongation of the eye? We need to test out dopamanergic eyedrops
If you google "dopamine eyeball elongation," there's many different studies. Here's a pop sci article about it: https://www.wired.com/story/taiwan-epicenter-of-world-myopia-epidemic/
@TheSir said in Defanging your computer:
@insufferable said in Defanging your computer:
I don't want to get pinned down to just "it's the blue light that's bad." There's just something incredibly Wrong with these unnatural lights, beyond the red/blue thing. Very sensitive people on the ledstrain forum talk about how they wear red glasses, deal with the light flicker problem, and still they get terrible migraines and so on from their screens and modern lights
On the old forum there is a thread called "nothing in life comes free", it might interest you. From what I remember, it's not just light but EMF that will enter your eyes, and since your eyes are an extension of your brain, the EMF will easily enter your brain. The harmful effects happen all the way to quantum level where the spin of electrons is affected, meaning that you can't really completely mitigate it in any way other than stopping exposure to it.
Anyway, great thread. I'm probably going to buy an e ink screen soon too.
Thanks, I'll check that out. That makes a lot of sense.
@metabolicmilk said in Defanging your computer:
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Here's what youtube looks like using the extension I mentioned earlier. I really like it.
Homepage - blank screen. I don't use the side buttons, theyre just there.
Then I search for what I want. (I also have the extension set so I never see any youtube shorts cause they're garbage.)And here's a video page - see how it shows no recommendations? Only shows the video I wanted. If I want something else, I have to think of it myself and go get it.
Decapitate the youtube algorithm!
Other stuff:
- https://graphhopper.com/maps
- Brown noise somehow improves ability to focus if you're in a noisy environment.
- A good idea I picked up from jujimufu's website years ago is to power your computer off after you're done using it. Then when you have something to do on the computer, before you power it on, take a moment to prepare and think out what exactly you're going to do on the computer. Make a list on paper. Then power on the computer focused on doing these clear tasks! Then once you've done it, power the computer off.
- Other good advice from juji: https://jujimufu.com/blogs/other/tricks-to-maximize-computer-time
@metabolicmilk said in Defanging your computer:
Has anyone seen daylight computer co?
They look quite interesting. There is also an interview with the CEO on YT which was great.
I did see that. Looks cool. I'd like to know more about how it works.
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@insufferable I ordered one. So I’ll let you know an honest review when I get it around May
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@metabolicmilk said in Defanging your computer:
@insufferable I ordered one. So I’ll let you know an honest review when I get it around May
Nice! I look forward to that!
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That e-ink monitor looks awesome. Now that you've mentioned refresh rate, I wonder if there's any difference between low and high refresh rate monitors in terms of their impact on your eyes. Would a sufficiently high refresh rate be benign or potentially more detrimental to your eyes?
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@Chud Good list! I just installed onetab, I've been looking for this for years! I love it
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I remembered another way to fix youtube.
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@insufferable what does that do
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For YouTube, I use the "Distraction Free Youtube" plugin on Firefox, it hides all the junk and focuses the UI on what you are viewing or searching. Good to avoid procrastination.
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After reading this post, I started researching on eye-friendly displays. It's a really unexplored and niche field at the moment, with a huge potential for growth imo. Most of what you can find today is only made by a couple of manufacturers, and the products are really expensive compared to regular monitors.
We have basically two options: E-Ink displays and RLCD displays. Both have no backlight (therefore no blue light), and no flicker.
E-ink displays contain literal pigments that are arranged electronically, as opposed to a traditional display which is a light panel that shines through a filter of RGB colors that penetrate your eyes. RLCD (reflective LCD) displays are like normal displays but they don't contain a backlight, instead, they rely on the ambient light which bounces on the screen and back to you.
So the main difference between the two boils down to:- E-ink displays have a very slow refresh rate, making them unusable for watching videos. Colored e-ink displays actually exist, but the color contrast is not great.
- RLCD displays have high refresh rates and high color contrasts, but they can suck in dark environments. They need to be used outside, or in a well-lit room.
Here are video reviews of the two best monitors of each kind right now:
Dasung Paperlike Color 25.3" for $1650
SVD RLCD 32" for $1500
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Good post thank you!
One thing though - my Dasung Paperlike monitor (a black and white one) is somehow fast enough to watch videos without any problem. I think it may just be Dasung that can do that. And people do say videos will wear out e-ink devices faster.
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I insufferable referenced this topic on
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https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/1355/solutions-to-excessive-smartphone-usage?_=1711402838085
this post is about some practical solutions to excessive smartphone screen time.
I agree computers are just as important though. Check out this recently released e-ink desktop monitor:
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I like incandescent lights but I notice when I use my e-ink screen under incandescents, my eyes hurt a bit. When my screen is lit by daylight through a window, my eyes don't hurt. Reading a book under an incandescent feels good though.
My screen has a glossy coating and I'm pretty sure it's reflecting the IR light from the bulb into my eyes. My eyes definitely hurt less when I angle my screen and my light so that it won't reflect the bulb's light straight into my eyes so directly.
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We have been using f.lux app for the 'puters. Free and less blue frequencies...... ONe can adjust it as well as setting your location for "sunrise/sunset" for natural light adjustment.
And we use incandescent lights - ie old fashioned yellow light bulbs - in the room as well. (Plus go outside!!! Which is free also, for now).
Best.
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@insufferable said in Defanging your computer:
So for twitter and youtube, I installed extensions to remove all the distracting stuff and make these sites intentional, so you have to type in what you want to see, before you see anything. Youtube and twitter both just display basically a blank screen on the homepage now.
The extensions I installed (on firefox) are "Unhook" for youtube and "Control Panel for Twitter." I also have "BlockTube" installed but I forget if it's doing anything right now or not (I tried it before I found Unhook) And of course I have AdBlock Plus running too.
Control Panel for Twitter stopped working. I use https://xcancel.com/ now, which is even better since you don't have to login to twitter.
