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    The anti-cortisol mechanism of trenbolone

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    • alfredoolivasA Offline
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      Trenbolone is a Carbonic Anhydrase Inhibitor
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      10.3109/14756366.2011.584535

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        Decreases desaturase enzymes
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        10.2527/jas.2011-3496

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        • alfredoolivasA Offline
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          Trenbolone derivative is anti estrogenic
          The use of altrenogest to avoid hyperestrogenism after eCG-hCG ovulation induction in southern tigrina (Leopardus guttulus)

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          • alfredoolivasA Offline
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            I suspected the membrane receptors such as the membrane estrogen receptors to be the cause of trenboloens side effects, might be true

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26440329/
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27285910/

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              Tren decreases estrogen receptors A and B & aromatase in the brain
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              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26098908/

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                "To address this, we exposed wild male guppies (Poecilia reticulata) to an environmentally realistic concentration of 17β-trenbolone (average measured concentration: 8 ng/L) for 21 days using a flow-through system. We found that, in the presence of a competitor, 17β-trenbolone-exposed males carried out more frequent aggressive behaviours towards rival males than did unexposed males, as well as performing less courting behaviour and more sneak (i.e., coercive) mating attempts towards female"

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28854383/

                Basically nanogram doses of tren turned "guppies"? into rapists with no intent for marriage

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                • alfredoolivasA Offline
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                  No point in doing trenbolone in florida @engineer
                  "Specifically, significant effects of trenbolone on male predator escape behavior were only noted at 30 °C, with males becoming less reactive to the simulated threat. Further, in the maze experiment, trenbolone-exposed fish explored the maze faster than control fish, but only at 20 °C. "
                  http://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30423539/

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                    "Melatonin attenuates 17beta-trenbolone induced insomnia-like phenotype and movement deficiency in zebrafish."

                    10.1016/j.chemosphere.2020.126762

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                      "The results conclude that nandrolone decanoate, but neither testosterone decanoate nor trenbolone decanoate, caused impaired recognition memory in the NOR-test, indicating an altered cognitive function. The behavioral profile and stress hormone level of the rats were not affected by the AAS treatments. Furthermore, the study revealed diverse AAS-induced somatic effects i.e., reduced body weight development and changes in organ weights. Of the three AAS included in the study, nandrolone decanoate was identified to cause the most prominent impact on the male rat, as it affected body weight development, the weights of multiple organs, and caused an impaired memory function."
                      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8974338/

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                        "In conclusion, our findings indicate that while 17-TB mitigates muscle atrophy and enhances motor activity in PD mice, it concurrently exacerbates neuroinflammation, induces neuronal apoptosis, and worsens dopaminergic neuronal death"
                        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39222261/

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                          CrumblingCookie @alfredoolivas
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                          @alfredoolivas What's your take on the infamous tren insanity?
                          Are such susceptible people, in hindsight, simply not meant to ever take tren?
                          Or can things like the turning violently homosexual, hysterically hyperemotional or sleepwalking be otherwise avoided by plausible mechanisms?

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                            @CrumblingCookie excess adrenaline signalling, possible glutamate, combined with high androgen signalling and possibly high estrogen membrane receptor signalling.

                            Studies show it creates a insomniac, aggressive phenotype with excitable legs.

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                              @alfredoolivas said in The anti-cortisol mechanism of trenbolone:

                              excess adrenaline signalling
                              excitable legs

                              This almost sounds like... too low dopamine? Restless legs is a symptom of too low dopamine and certain dopamine agonists reduce adrenalin. A match made in heaven?

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                                alfredoolivas @engineer
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                                @engineer yeah maybe, though it lowers prolactin in these microdoses. I think a better explanation is that it is neurotoxic to dopamine neurons.

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                                  engineer @alfredoolivas
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                                  @alfredoolivas said in The anti-cortisol mechanism of trenbolone:

                                  "In conclusion, our findings indicate that while 17-TB mitigates muscle atrophy and enhances motor activity in PD mice, it concurrently exacerbates neuroinflammation, induces neuronal apoptosis, and worsens dopaminergic neuronal death"
                                  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39222261/

                                  What dosage?

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                                  • alfredoolivasA Offline
                                    alfredoolivas @engineer
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                                    @engineer 8mcg / kg.

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                                    • alfredoolivasA Offline
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                                      Trenbolone increases excretion or metabolism of estrogen massively
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                                      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0039128X76900659

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                                      • engineerE Offline
                                        engineer @alfredoolivas
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                                        @alfredoolivas it is criminal to not include HEDs if available with these studies

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                                        • alfredoolivasA Offline
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                                          @engineer https://www.pidantuan.com/ to get studies behind paywalls not added to sci hub.

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                                            engineer @alfredoolivas
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                                            @alfredoolivas thats not the problem

                                            I can access all articles anyway because my college is good

                                            problem is that I dont want to manually go through the article content to find a dosage

                                            haidut always provided heds for his study reviews if dosages were available

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