Peptides straight from vendor - Analyzed bulk (Reta 30mg vials/motsC 40mg/GHK CU 100mg/SS31 50mg/BPC 20mg n so on
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Well it will be interesting how it goes for you. With the EDS there's obviously been a greater collagen structure impairment and ensueing chronic infectious and inflammatory burden.
Are you nevertheless going to do a 4-weeks break after 8-10weeks of GHK-Cu to relieve downregulation pressure on integrin receptors?Would also be interesting whether "normal" GHK-Cu doses supplemented by more oral copper would already enhance its effects.
Someone was spamming all over reddit that the rate-limiting building block for mitochondrial biogenesis could be methyl groups. I doubt that. Obviously some amounts of phospholipids will be necessary. Beyond that perhaps it will require (supraphysiological) provisions of copper for it to reach there and make a therapeutic difference in contrast to the gradual, organic growth and development of tissues before adulthood. Most of the c. 100mg total body Cu may be localized within mitochondria if one does the math of Cu/mtProtein dry mass, with very little in the cytosol, serum and ECM.Like we learnt with BPC, people were running 200mcg 15 years ago and now we know the MG doses are needed
Haven't read about that anywhere either. AFAIK injected BPC plateaus at 500-1000mcg.
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uther peptides source is not a secret source and you can post their name. the ghkcu studied protocol is like 1mg or 10mg (honestly cant remember) per day for like 7-10 days once or twice a year maybe every quarter via a an insulin pump. one shot of 10mg a day is massively wasteful as it has 1/10th of the effectiveness to slam it all at once vs drip feed it throughout the day
tb500 is barely studied compared to tb4 and people perpetuate the naming mixup
bpc is active orally for systemic issues
small doses of various peptides incl bpc have been shown to work in animals when given frequently .
wa la
its 2026 and theres literally no reason to gatekeep these sources with private messages and secret chats
the ghk cu information on dosing by peptide enthusiasts is a testament to something or other about people because lorne pickharts work on it establishing doses is published in journals , its not secret information. the peptide mixes are just stuff someone made up, the doses make no sense but i guess it saves 8 seconds not having to draw from multiple vials
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@sunsunsun Thats not my source and there are tons of those wich the name you used, this post was for those that payed online prices and wanted cheaper
The info you have about vendors, you just learnt, you dident know about this few years ago. Even were i im in the bodybuilding comunity everyone pay regular price, very few buy kits. So good for you that you have a good vendor, most dont. Wich is why i made this thread
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Well it will be interesting how it goes for you. With the EDS there's obviously been a greater collagen structure impairment and ensueing chronic infectious and inflammatory burden.
Are you nevertheless going to do a 4-weeks break after 8-10weeks of GHK-Cu to relieve downregulation pressure on integrin receptors?Would also be interesting whether "normal" GHK-Cu doses supplemented by more oral copper would already enhance its effects.
Someone was spamming all over reddit that the rate-limiting building block for mitochondrial biogenesis could be methyl groups. I doubt that. Obviously some amounts of phospholipids will be necessary. Beyond that perhaps it will require (supraphysiological) provisions of copper for it to reach there and make a therapeutic difference in contrast to the gradual, organic growth and development of tissues before adulthood. Most of the c. 100mg total body Cu may be localized within mitochondria if one does the math of Cu/mtProtein dry mass, with very little in the cytosol, serum and ECM.Like we learnt with BPC, people were running 200mcg 15 years ago and now we know the MG doses are needed
Haven't read about that anywhere either. AFAIK injected BPC plateaus at 500-1000mcg.
The side effects people get fram ramping up mitochondria is always fixed by restoring methylation/adding more methyl donors. Sure more add ons are needed as well, dont know about copper like you said but many minerals like potassium (wich is a must for all the new cells being created) magnesium. as copper is so crucial for oxygen n mito it would def help but its not like methylation were you get sick if you dont ad it
Nope wont be doing any breaks. Havent really seen any evidence of downregulation when it comes to peptides, everyone that talk about doing breaks are doing it for how expencive the vials are, its copium
But its possible that it can happen. Seen a few saying mots c stopped working, and now for myself after starting it again i notice less of an effect vs few weeks back. GHK cu i feel right away tho and still do 3 months later
Running thymosine alpha 1 for autoimmune and still get the brain fog release n increase in energy
Were did you see that peptides caused downregulation?
Regarding BPC dosing changes its whats been learnt in the fitness industry the last decade. Know some clinics still recomend the 200-250mcg microdose but the 1mg works wayy better (according to those that used it for long). Belive i did 250mcg x 2 15 years ago but my inflammation issues were autoimmune/histamine driven so it did not help much
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the ghkcu studied protocol is like 1mg or 10mg (honestly cant remember) per day for like 7-10 days once or twice a year maybe every quarter via a an insulin pump. one shot of 10mg a day is massively wasteful as it has 1/10th of the effectiveness to slam it all at once vs drip feed it throughout the daytb500 is barely studied compared to tb4 and people perpetuate the naming mixup
bpc is active orally for systemic issues
small doses of various peptides incl bpc have been shown to work in animals when given frequently .
the ghk cu information on dosing by peptide enthusiasts is a testament to something or other about people because lorne pickharts work on it establishing doses is published in journals , its not secret information. the peptide mixes are just stuff someone made up, the doses make no sense but i guess it saves 8 seconds not having to draw from multiple vials
You are mixing up the epitalon protocol with ghk cu, 10mg for 10 days 2 times per year wich also makes no sense as the body needs constant repair
Either way, the half life of peptides dosent matter as they cause gene changes, GHK dosent need an insulin pump the genetic expression is changed for multiple days
Would it be better to dose it twize per day? possibly. but the gene expression will still be changed
Regarding tb4 vs tb5, the small fragment is barley sold its the full sequence that basically every vendor sell. wich also helps skin n other areas. i rather use the full sequence even if the fragment is possibly a little bit better. its the full that people got sucess stories with for the last 15 years
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Were did you see that peptides caused downregulation?
Only on GHK, here:
https://www.realpeptides.co/tolerance-ghk-cu-cosmetic-cycling-research-protocol/GHK cu i feel right away tho and still do 3 months later
I would really like to read how you respond to that megadosing of GHK-Cu in contrast to megadosing an equivalent mount of base GHK to get a feeling on how much is actually about GHK's direct actions and its copper shuttling versus the additionally supplied Cu. By switching to base GHK we sadly cannot infer anything about the former two but only the latter. If most of the extra effect is due to GHK's copper shuttling to where it's needed then extra melatonin and other oral compounds may replace or enhance that benefit.
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@Lordallmighty re: mixing up ghk and epitalon, um no, im not, ive read the original source material from Lorne pickhardt who studied it for like 30 years. they have specific data showing dosing frequency and which is superior. Your other comments are just cringe and not even dignifiable with a response
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@CrumblingCookie megadosing ghkcu is literally proven suboptimal by the studies , and ghk base and ghkcu are interchangeable. the former will just pick up cu in serum. thats all.
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