The Mysterious Case of Pufa Depletion
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@TexugoDoMel when you mix cut days in with “regular diet” what percentage of cals do you cut on the cut days? Do you change macro ratios, or keep everything the same and just reduce a percentage of calories? Maybe this is all instinctive to you at this point? Of so, can you guesstimate?
If it’s every other day and I don’t want to overthink it, then the only rule for me is to have a calorie deficit of between 100 and 500 calories on those days.
What worked best for me was having days with a 1000–1500-calorie deficit(or basically close to 50% of calories deficit), and on the other days I generally ate normally. I didn’t have fixed deficit days, so some weeks the total deficit was just 1500, while others it was 3000. Based on the percentage of macros, I think it would be considered high-fat because I used a trick to keep from feeling hungry: I’d drink a few ml of skim milk every half(or one) hour, and I didn’t end up consuming too many calories in total
Since my metabolic rate wasn’t affected, the weight loss from the gross calorie deficit was 4 kg, and the weight loss from the additional calories burned by maintaining (or increasing) my metabolic rate was another 6 kg, for a total loss of 10 kg. There were no negative effects on my workouts, and I continued to progress every workout.
I don’t believe in CICO the way gymbros apply it. If you restrict 500 calories, your body can only burn that amount from bodyfat if it increases its mitochondria to process more of the released energy; if it doesn’t have that capacity, then your metabolic rate will drop.
So my “sweet spot” with these experiments has the sole purpose of stimulating mitochondrial function via AMPK/PGC-1a; I don’t care about the calorie deficit itself, and in my mind, if I hit the “sweet spot,” the other days would reinforce the changes and I’d continue to feel energetic; if I felt any loss of energy, then I’d have overdone it
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@TexugoDoMel excellent response! Thank you
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@texugodomel @alfredoolivas and people of the thread . Is there any reason to believe that uncouplers , especially strong ones, will increase cortisol and or adrenaline
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@hcwilliams yes of course
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@hcwilliams Well, it uncouples from ATP production so yes.
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@hcwilliams yes of course
Do you think tren is an uncoupler? Based on anecdotal evidence of night sweats, a need for carbs, and it’s fat burning ability?
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@TexugoDoMel said:
Regardless of the diet, the body converts almost all stearic acid into oleic acid. Since it is generally difficult to find an oleic-rich food that doesn't also contain excessive amounts of linoleic acid, the best approach I’ve found is direct stearic acid supplementation; this allows you to increase oleic acid levels in proportion to the amount of stearic supplemented while adding zero PUFAs.Looks like you can buy pure stearic acid from Amazon et al. right now for prices similar to coconut oil. Has anyone tried using stearic acid in lieu of coconut or other oils to maximally gain its benefits? This seems like the kind of thing you'd ask Ray but I haven't seen anything in the archives regarding this.
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@engineer seems there is vastly different absorption rates of different waxes. @texugodomel could maybe weight in on this. IIRC, one type has 15% absorption
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@alfredoolivas so are you saying that if you cooked with pure stearic acid, you'd absorb only 15% of it? in other words, you get a free total fat reduction, or are you talking about absorption in the pure form?
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@engineer “I'm not a fan of consuming stearic acid from manufactured sources. "The efficiency with which human subjects digest stearoyl from cocoa butter still remains uncertain, while the digestion of total long-chain fat from this source is 0.89-0.95 g/g, high in comparison with 0.33 g/g for Salatrim 23CA and 0.15 g/g for tristearin in their prepared states." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19087439/. According to this study, stearic acid in cocoa butter is 89-95% absorb-able, while staric acid from tristearin is 15% absorb-able. The fireinabottle stearic acid is mainly tristearin. The cocoa butter stearic acid is mainly stearoyl“
I remember this Reddit comment that’s all. Yeah.
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Alright I’m starting my journey to pufa depletion in a year. I crunched some numbers and, assuming my total pufa stores are around 35-45% of total fat weight, I figure I can get that down to 8% in a year.
It’s gonna consist of dropping my total body weight stores to about 10-11lb of total BW, or around 8-10% body fat, then purposely gaining weight with saturated fat, then dropping total body weight back down to 10-11lb.
Each time I drop my body weight my total pufa stores also go down in weight. Then Purposely adding fat mass to my frame will dilute the percentage of pufa stores. Rinse wash repeat.
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