New "Mission" of RPF
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Here they are conflating inexpensive and readily available substances that are often used in lieu of vaccines and proprietary big pharma solutions, with big pharma in their pretense of being anti-pharma. Ray Peat wasn't against ALL pharmaceutical drugs -- in fact part of his genius was researching which ones were actually relatively safe, useful, practical and affordable for short-term use to resolve particular problems.
Actually, what I remember Ray Peat saying about Ivermectin was that it was relatively safe, but that one in one hundred might suffer brain damage, and he wouldn't take it himself, but people on the RPF seemed pretty gung-ho about it. I used Losartan (another of his recommendations) and Benadryl when I thought I had COVID, and honestly I've had much worse colds/flu in my life.
@ilovethesea
I'd like to claim that I saw this coming, but it looks like they are way ahead of me.
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Here they mock a news outlet reporting on vaccines.... They are really really worried about you and I knowing about cheap and widely available Ivermectin. You can buy it over the counter in Mexico and it is so popular that the pharmacies often run specials on it.
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Here's another, this first tweet seems to be outlining the strategy, and the last implying that any charlatan who materializes promoting the toxic a/bile theory is just as good as anyone else. Ray Peat was critical of doctors and dogma and authoritarians, but that doesn't mean any shyster that comes along with some BS set of theories is any better. They take parts of Dr. Peat's work and twist the meaning to use in their propaganda and ultimately use against him.
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Thank you for sharing it
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That is not a pleasant read
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I think this may be the viral video mentioned https://twitter.com/ThorTorrens/status/1772648342276710747
More on Evan âThorâ Torrens.. his bio is suspicious AF
Thatâs from here https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/thor-torrens-for-zcg-decemeber-2022/43487
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@ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:
I think this may be the viral video mentioned https://twitter.com/ThorTorrens/status/1772648342276710747
Thatâs from here https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/thor-torrens-for-zcg-decemeber-2022/43487I'm not disagreeing with you here, don't change your mind for me.
I'm just compelled to comment because I spent a micromoment or two watching this specimen. This (hilarious) bio fits my idiot opportunist distinction. Regardless of how long JZ may have looked him in the eye (ahem).
He's probably quite funny IRL. If he wants to come to London and get shitfaced, I'm reasonably sure I could convince him diabo is real. Metaphorically or not. And have him scanning barcodes at a checkout shortly thereafter.
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I too see the idiocy but this is a ruse, and it is hard to ignore the obvious agenda and whose interests it serves. Even a casual look into AI tech today gives me the impression that everything any one of us has ever written on RPF is now in a database somewhere and is being manipulated and deployed to create this distraction/propaganda narrative.
Hard to tell if this is sponsored by a political PAC or is part of the censorship/disinformation wing of the gov't in order to brainwash Repubs just in case Trump wins.
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@C-Mex
Just on the whole "AI" thing. (All) LLMs (except the glorious retrieval augmented PeatBot and its inevitable successor) are quite retarded.
One trained on vile vitriol and malice, adjoined with questionable vision and world models could be tricky. But perhaps only if something resembling a critical mass of people believe it's "generally" "intelligent".
Obviously I can't be sure.
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One implementation does not the lot make. You could be comparing an online calculator with a Geographic Triangulation System. I'm not an expert but in the video Shadowgate (posted earlier) the whistleblowers described just such an infiltration into a group and said that most of it was done with AI now. It "learns" from what we have written.
Not to worry thougjh. Kamala Harris is at the helm of leadership for the technology and I'm sure she'll be watching out for any disabuses....
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@C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:
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Kamala Harris is at the helm of leadership for the technology and I'm sure she'll be watching out for any disabuses....I lol, as I picture her laughing her arse off. While pressuring a nerdoid to plug GPT into norad. And getting schooled in response.
And the other thing. It could learn my prose sure. But what of my thought. If I were concerned about this. I wouldn't be here. Not quite like this at least.
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IDK, some Silicon Valley types have raised the alarm. Can't say I'm not concerned about it because I don't think I fully understand all of the implications involved without further study, but I'm much more concerned about speaking out. Intimidation and establishing a phony consensus seems to be the goal of these idiots, be they man or machine. I wouldn't let it silence me, no. It needs to be talked about more, the implications and where it is heading.
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@ilovethesea LMAO. And there it is.
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these weirdos would have been flat earthers instead if they watched a different documentary when they started researching
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@C-Mex this seems pretty obviously related to the whole âredirect all vaguely right wing or anti-establishment sentiment into evangelical Zionismâ media complex
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IDK about all of that, but it is odd. I heard Trump was out selling Bibles today, and it always puzzled me why the RPF had so many Trump fans and the religious zealots (not to offend anyone, it's just over the top) didn't really come out until after Peat's passing, although I can't say for sure as I was away from the forum for a few years and returned after that.
Actually a light bulb just went off: What could be considered more 'anti-science' than religion? Incomplete thought, but they accuse anyone skeptical of Fauci as being 'anti-science'.
Anyway, I'm just looking through a political lens and see who benefits from this propaganda campaign and it clearly looks to me like a pharma/uniparty agenda. The politics/religion of the RPF are there to see, I'm not politicizing it myself The whole toxic vitamin a thing is just a propaganda campaign. It doesn't have to be true. They just have to have an alternate explanation for what is causing the rise in autoimmune and other chronic diseases in the US and all they have to do is get enough voters to buy it before the next election. That's why they need to destroy Ray Peat's work and reputation.
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@C-Mex It's brilliant strategy really.
They can't let Ray Peat be a martyr. So more effective to have all alt-health be a bunch of dangerous doofus lunatics.
The campaign to require a doctor's prescription for "supplements" has been on-going. And the doctor whores will be all over it.
I've watched one veterinarian after another go from "holistic" to selling prescription Royal Canin ration and vaccine shills. Try getting a prescription for an itchy dog without getting all his vax up to date. -
Right, I was just thinking it could be multi-faceted.
Introduce doubt, confusion and distraction into the pharma and vaccine-skeptical political right (and anyone else who tags along -- can't hurt).
Associate the 'anti-science' pharma-skeptical crowd with religious fanatacism and cult-like behavior.
Associate Ray Peat and anyone who follows him with the religious right.
Slander and smear his work with bogus theories that also offer an alternate explanation for the health problems that plague Americans. Anyone new to him will be confused and go running back to the medical harm system for information. Looks like they have a strategy in place to troll other alternate health practictioners as well.
The regulation of supplements for purity at first glance to me didn't sound so bad, but they want to regulate what is being sold and we don't have any uncaptured federal regulatory agency that can be trusted for any kind of testing or regulation for purity or otherwise, period. Looks like just another grab at controlling another market by the powers that be and remove our freedoms and should be resisted.
It is getting worse with doctors, dentists, and now vets. It is sad really. Maybe you could find what you are looking for online?
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@C-Mex pharma / uni party benefits because whatâs going to end up happening as a result of this is people who might have actually taken control of their lives via peatâs research are just going to get corralled back on to the Paleo/keto/fad diet plantation; which is long controlled by the establishment and poses no threat to anything.
Kind of hard to explain what I mean by this but Rayâs philosophy and research is really âinfiniteâ in terms of potential compared to something like carnivore which is just a reductive lifestyle and is already âsolved.â The powers that be donât like infinite potential in the hands of everyday people.
