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      A Former User @Mulloch94
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      @Mulloch94 said in New "Mission" of RPF:

      @saturnuscv said in New "Mission" of RPF:

      pharma / uni party benefits because what’s going to end up happening as a result of this is people who might have actually taken control of their lives via peat’s research are just going to get corralled back on to the Paleo/keto/fad diet plantation; which is long controlled by the establishment and poses no threat to anything.

      You just don't get it...Ray was a CIA operative who's goal was to wreck the legume industry and get people to stop eating beans. Charlie has been eating 6 cups of beans daily and social distancing has never been easier for him! Fauci would be amazed how effortlessly people stay at least 6 feet away from him at all times. Detoxing toxic bile is how you avoid covid 🤣

      Yeah, the legume industry is almost as bad as big corn and big dairy...🤡

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        Mulloch94 @A Former User
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        @C-Mex I gotcha, yeah I think it's the ACLU you're thinking about. I don't know why, but I just assumed when you said you were on both sides of that issue at one point you might had been one of those Zionist conservatives who started realizing they pulled the same type of crap with antisemitism the woke progressives on the left pull with transphobia and other shit.

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              Hando-Jin
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              That Thor Torrens fella is hilarious. He's one of those pathetic Trump pussybeggers who have a desperate need to prove they were part of his inner circle because they have nothing else to rely on, They'd call Trump daddy if he told them to.

              Spent a day at Jay-Z's house. lol. Is this guy 15 years old?

              His eyes have that stressed, hypothyroid, too much cortisol look to them and the cocksure attitude of a cliched wannabe finance/influencer/bitcoin bro who knows deep down he probably isn't going to 'make it'. Boring people who obsesses over social media strategies and the 'grind'.

              Who the fuck would want to be like that?

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                  A Former User @Regina
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                  @Regina

                  We need to use food not supplements. Food can be very powerful you know. You can always grow your own herbs....

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                    AkJono @saturnuscv
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                    Now back to this story:
                    Hey All Ya'll and saturnuscv
                    @saturnuscv said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                    Kind of hard to explain what I mean by this but Ray’s philosophy and research is really “infinite” in terms of potential compared to something like carnivore which is just a reductive lifestyle and is already “solved.” The powers that be don’t like infinite potential in the hands of everyday people.

                    For me, from the beginning of my interest into Ray Peat's ideas, was a dive into his website articles for the first few years. He was seemingly Wholistic, as far as can be morphed by my puny brain, in his approach to the bio systems. And I am coming from a TCM point of view! Anyhow, when I heard Ray discuss cell structure and energy, and then other aspects of how it all works, I was chuffed. (means 'cool and excited' sorta downunder).

                    Ray's connecting of the proverbial dots relating to the "Learned Helplessness" Epidemic and excess serotonin, low thyroid, etc.. . And this is an accident of modern life: nutrition/agribusiness/pharma?

                    Not only what we eat, but the whole matrix of input around us: Cultural/Societal, TV and now 'Puter, emf in the airwaves... . People's attention spans are becoming shorter and shorter. Not just that but when do modern people perceive? As in just be.... not necessarily meditating, but looking at the sky, or listening to rain?

                    Ray appreciated life and art, was a great thinker who could think his own thoughts (and not regurgitate others' thoughts), and was a maverick who championed others to be more healthy and free. Of course one not need to be paranoid to see that the State does not want anyone to get away from them. Freedom, health, and unlimited creative energy is 'too much' for the status quo regime makers. Just that is considered dangerous, imo, so then the bots and bad actors get the memo to attack and destroy. Just what I see.

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                      Hando-Jin @A Former User
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                      @questforhealth that's naturalistic philosophy, not metabolic/bioenergetic

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                        A Former User @Hando-Jin
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                        @Hando-Jin

                        ok but just in case things go to shit. I take some supplements too. but we can use food too no?

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                          Hando-Jin @A Former User
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                          @questforhealth you can do whatever you want 🙂 food has limits though. I wasted plenty of my life trying to fix everything with diet.

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                            A Former User @Hando-Jin
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                            @Hando-Jin

                            but does food have limits? I think the problem is how its grown. poor nutrient devoid soil

                            no micronutrients = plants cant make vitamins to move up the food chain

                            if the farmer just adds nitrogen fertiliser its not really a solution

                            most people on earth other than the ones living in farming areas and with real knowledge might actually not have tried real nutritious food...

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                              Hando-Jin @A Former User
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                              @questforhealth said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                              @Hando-Jin

                              but does food have limits? I think the problem is how its grown. poor nutrient devoid soil

                              no micronutrients = plants cant make vitamins to move up the food chain

                              if the farmer just adds nitrogen fertiliser its not really a solution

                              most people on earth other than the ones living in farming areas and with real knowledge might actually not have tried real nutritious food...

                              Maybe if you use all parts of the animal as a source of thyroid. Antihistamines and antibiotics are hard for some to do without and are pretty safe.

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                                A Former User @Hando-Jin
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                                @Hando-Jin

                                you can eat a carrot straight form the garden and it can have bacteria on it which can help balance the gut microbiome. real living soil has thousands of microbes

                                some people on this forum find that that clean gut hypothesis doesn't work best for them, I also read a lot recently about how people in rural areas have the gut bacteria to digest cellulose. city dwellers don't. kind of surprised me really

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                                  Hando-Jin
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                                  protect the women!

                                  2024-03-28 18.42.52 raypeatforum.com 3f57ce5cfbde.jpg

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                                    A Former User @Hando-Jin
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                                    @Hando-Jin

                                    saving america for jesus

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                                      CO3 @ilovethesea
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                                      @ilovethesea yeah there is definitely an op to discredit Ray's ideas from within.

                                      There's two approaches:

                                      -reactionary idiots diluting the ideas while pretending to be experts on the matter

                                      -other reactionary idiots actively going against the ideas

                                      Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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                                        risingfire @ilovethesea
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                                        @ilovethesea "spent the day with Jayz" ok loser

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                                          A Former User
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                                          If they are trying this hard... Are Rays ideas really that powerful?

                                          Just let that sink in...

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                                            Amazoniac @ilovethesea
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                                            @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                            @Amazoniac He’s taken the entire site off the wayback machine. Stolen all our content, banned us from accessing it, and now we can’t even look up prior versions. Unbelievable!

                                            Screenshot 2024-03-25 at 8.39.55 PM copy.png

                                            Did you, BioEclectic and other members have the chance to open the initial version of the forum, at the time when Ray agreed with its creation? The appearance was almost a variation of his website, with a picture of him and some of his favorite foods.

                                            It's thanks to the limited access that I had to resort to the Internet Archive and could compare the initial to a recent version of the front page, which was a wall of warnings, pushy subscriptions, misinformation campaigns, and senseless slandering.

                                            "CO2 , The Gas of Life" | William Happer

                                            "If I see a madman driving a car into a group of innocent bystanders, then I can’t simply wait for the catastrophe and then comfort the wounded and bury the dead. I must try to wrestle the steering wheel out of the hands of the driver."

                                            Contrary to Ray, the lion isn't a 'killer', but the apathy of some participants in being spectators of power abuses by him is perplexing.

                                            The forum has become the antithesis of the person that it represents.

                                            I wonder what are the thresholds for protesting for those who remain indifferent. They need a footage of the lion incinerating members with ethanol retinol to act?

                                            At this stage, I'm more wary of people who haven't positioned than those who are enraged.

                                            As for the few supportive militants, they're intriguing. They identify themselves as the open-minded camp while watching unfazed the tyranny in front of them. If these people were liberals as claimed, they would repudiate the administration and wouldn't be willing to be part of it.

                                            The recent access restrictions were based on the forum being under attack, but what about everything that was already archived? These were a threat to defend against too?

                                            Even CloudFlare takes a more balanced approach than radical blocking:

                                            • The Trouble with Tor | CloudFlare

                                            "We didn’t want to make blocklisting easier because, again, we believe there’s value in the anonymous web surfing that Tor offers."

                                            • The Trouble with CloudFlare | The Tor Project

                                            I now have a support page!

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