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      • Hando-JinH
        Hando-Jin
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        That Thor Torrens fella is hilarious. He's one of those pathetic Trump pussybeggers who have a desperate need to prove they were part of his inner circle because they have nothing else to rely on, They'd call Trump daddy if he told them to.

        Spent a day at Jay-Z's house. lol. Is this guy 15 years old?

        His eyes have that stressed, hypothyroid, too much cortisol look to them and the cocksure attitude of a cliched wannabe finance/influencer/bitcoin bro who knows deep down he probably isn't going to 'make it'. Boring people who obsesses over social media strategies and the 'grind'.

        Who the fuck would want to be like that?

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            A Former User @Regina
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            @Regina

            We need to use food not supplements. Food can be very powerful you know. You can always grow your own herbs....

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              AkJono @saturnuscv
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              Now back to this story:
              Hey All Ya'll and saturnuscv
              @saturnuscv said in New "Mission" of RPF:

              Kind of hard to explain what I mean by this but Ray’s philosophy and research is really “infinite” in terms of potential compared to something like carnivore which is just a reductive lifestyle and is already “solved.” The powers that be don’t like infinite potential in the hands of everyday people.

              For me, from the beginning of my interest into Ray Peat's ideas, was a dive into his website articles for the first few years. He was seemingly Wholistic, as far as can be morphed by my puny brain, in his approach to the bio systems. And I am coming from a TCM point of view! Anyhow, when I heard Ray discuss cell structure and energy, and then other aspects of how it all works, I was chuffed. (means 'cool and excited' sorta downunder).

              Ray's connecting of the proverbial dots relating to the "Learned Helplessness" Epidemic and excess serotonin, low thyroid, etc.. . And this is an accident of modern life: nutrition/agribusiness/pharma?

              Not only what we eat, but the whole matrix of input around us: Cultural/Societal, TV and now 'Puter, emf in the airwaves... . People's attention spans are becoming shorter and shorter. Not just that but when do modern people perceive? As in just be.... not necessarily meditating, but looking at the sky, or listening to rain?

              Ray appreciated life and art, was a great thinker who could think his own thoughts (and not regurgitate others' thoughts), and was a maverick who championed others to be more healthy and free. Of course one not need to be paranoid to see that the State does not want anyone to get away from them. Freedom, health, and unlimited creative energy is 'too much' for the status quo regime makers. Just that is considered dangerous, imo, so then the bots and bad actors get the memo to attack and destroy. Just what I see.

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              • Hando-JinH
                Hando-Jin @A Former User
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                @questforhealth that's naturalistic philosophy, not metabolic/bioenergetic

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                  A Former User @Hando-Jin
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                  @Hando-Jin

                  ok but just in case things go to shit. I take some supplements too. but we can use food too no?

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                  • Hando-JinH
                    Hando-Jin @A Former User
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                    @questforhealth you can do whatever you want 🙂 food has limits though. I wasted plenty of my life trying to fix everything with diet.

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                      A Former User @Hando-Jin
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                      @Hando-Jin

                      but does food have limits? I think the problem is how its grown. poor nutrient devoid soil

                      no micronutrients = plants cant make vitamins to move up the food chain

                      if the farmer just adds nitrogen fertiliser its not really a solution

                      most people on earth other than the ones living in farming areas and with real knowledge might actually not have tried real nutritious food...

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                      • Hando-JinH
                        Hando-Jin @A Former User
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                        @questforhealth said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                        @Hando-Jin

                        but does food have limits? I think the problem is how its grown. poor nutrient devoid soil

                        no micronutrients = plants cant make vitamins to move up the food chain

                        if the farmer just adds nitrogen fertiliser its not really a solution

                        most people on earth other than the ones living in farming areas and with real knowledge might actually not have tried real nutritious food...

                        Maybe if you use all parts of the animal as a source of thyroid. Antihistamines and antibiotics are hard for some to do without and are pretty safe.

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                          A Former User @Hando-Jin
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                          @Hando-Jin

                          you can eat a carrot straight form the garden and it can have bacteria on it which can help balance the gut microbiome. real living soil has thousands of microbes

                          some people on this forum find that that clean gut hypothesis doesn't work best for them, I also read a lot recently about how people in rural areas have the gut bacteria to digest cellulose. city dwellers don't. kind of surprised me really

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                          • Hando-JinH
                            Hando-Jin
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                            protect the women!

                            2024-03-28 18.42.52 raypeatforum.com 3f57ce5cfbde.jpg

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                              A Former User @Hando-Jin
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                              @Hando-Jin

                              saving america for jesus

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                                CO3 @ilovethesea
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                                @ilovethesea yeah there is definitely an op to discredit Ray's ideas from within.

                                There's two approaches:

                                -reactionary idiots diluting the ideas while pretending to be experts on the matter

                                -other reactionary idiots actively going against the ideas

                                Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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                                  risingfire @ilovethesea
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                                  @ilovethesea "spent the day with Jayz" ok loser

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                                    A Former User
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                                    If they are trying this hard... Are Rays ideas really that powerful?

                                    Just let that sink in...

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                                      Amazoniac @ilovethesea
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                                      @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                      @Amazoniac He’s taken the entire site off the wayback machine. Stolen all our content, banned us from accessing it, and now we can’t even look up prior versions. Unbelievable!

                                      Screenshot 2024-03-25 at 8.39.55 PM copy.png

                                      Did you, BioEclectic and other members have the chance to open the initial version of the forum, at the time when Ray agreed with its creation? The appearance was almost a variation of his website, with a picture of him and some of his favorite foods.

                                      It's thanks to the limited access that I had to resort to the Internet Archive and could compare the initial to a recent version of the front page, which was a wall of warnings, pushy subscriptions, misinformation campaigns, and senseless slandering.

                                      "CO2 , The Gas of Life" | William Happer

                                      "If I see a madman driving a car into a group of innocent bystanders, then I can’t simply wait for the catastrophe and then comfort the wounded and bury the dead. I must try to wrestle the steering wheel out of the hands of the driver."

                                      Contrary to Ray, the lion isn't a 'killer', but the apathy of some participants in being spectators of power abuses by him is perplexing.

                                      The forum has become the antithesis of the person that it represents.

                                      I wonder what are the thresholds for protesting for those who remain indifferent. They need a footage of the lion incinerating members with ethanol retinol to act?

                                      At this stage, I'm more wary of people who haven't positioned than those who are enraged.

                                      As for the few supportive militants, they're intriguing. They identify themselves as the open-minded camp while watching unfazed the tyranny in front of them. If these people were liberals as claimed, they would repudiate the administration and wouldn't be willing to be part of it.

                                      The recent access restrictions were based on the forum being under attack, but what about everything that was already archived? These were a threat to defend against too?

                                      Even CloudFlare takes a more balanced approach than radical blocking:

                                      • The Trouble with Tor | CloudFlare

                                      "We didn’t want to make blocklisting easier because, again, we believe there’s value in the anonymous web surfing that Tor offers."

                                      • The Trouble with CloudFlare | The Tor Project

                                      I now have a support page!

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                                      • yerragY
                                        yerrag @ilovethesea
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                                        @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                        I think this Thor Torrens person is an agent assigned to popularize the “low vitamin A/anti-Peat” project. Has anyone found the viral video this guy is referring to?

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                                        Also look at his Twitter bio... special assistant to POTUS? Emmy winner?

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                                        Same asshole energy as Garrett Smith what a surprise

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                                        Jocks with some science to sell.

                                        Buying- the desperate already hooked on Fentanyl with some to spare. Muscles and guns give the sellers street cred.

                                        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                          yerrag @Mulloch94
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                                          @Mulloch94 said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                          @C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                          Let's just say I've been on both sides of the Israel issue

                                          What do you mean by this? Are you just talking about the most recent events? Because Israel and Palestine have been going at it for a long time. I think this is really more of a divider on the American right than anywhere else. Most people on the left (outside of corporate democrats) stand pretty much in solidarity with Palestine. I'll refrain from giving my personal views on it as well, but lets just say, insufferable pricks like Ben Shapiro routinely like to weaponize their Jewish status as a means for identifying and calling out antisemitism .When in reality, more times than not, the people charged with antisemitism were usually just being critical of vulgar Israeli nationalism and human rights violations.

                                          For the Holy Week, if I were Jesus, I would recommend to you this recent history of the Church, following the victory of the Jews over the church Jesus Christ established in WWIi:

                                          https://www.unz.com/article/the-smoke-of-the-synagogue/

                                          This article shows the height and depth of what the Jewish controllers and masters would do to infiltrate the head of the snake, the papacy. It would not be surprising for a revised history of WWII be written by Jew financier- financed rewriting of recent history, further making the Catholic Church a church that acted as a willful collaborator in the fictional Holocaust. As more Catholics leave this church for the "anti-religion (in words and not by reality of deed, as seen in how much of a religion it is to revere Jewry as the chosen people leading them to unknowingly, at least initially, be led by the pied piper of Christian Zionism)" and direct to Jesus evangelical churches, the more Israel and Zionist loving Christianity becomes to such extent that if possible at all, and if the rabbis permit (which would not be the first time) Christian conversion to Jewry.

                                          Already, my fervently Catholic sister practices the seder, a Jewish meal to commemorate the Passover, and I don't even know if evangelicals do this as well.

                                          But as Singaporeans would say "same same la." Both Catholics and Evangelicals have now more in common than before, in their converging view on Jews as being the chosen, and with that, a unity or a singularity is forming, as shaped by the ever growing strength and power and riches of tptb Talmudist and Zionist Jew financiers.

                                          How one of the most anti-establishment personage in Jesus would become the most useful after death, spanning two millennia and more, in solidifying the establishment's hold on mankind- is something to both be marveled at and to despise to the fiber of our being. If we are astute enough to recognize this.

                                          How this eventual reshaping and misshaping of noble intent was done is the blueprint for how modern day anti-establishment reformists and idealists and their ideas are being used to recapture our minds to blend in to the establishment's control of it. The more dependent we are on marching to their tune, the more safely ensconced they are in their absolute control of power. And the more power they have, the more abuse they can impose on us with impunity.

                                          I think the undergoing project of tearing Ray Peat apart is a sub-cultural encapsulation of the general culture I described. To sum it best, it is nothing as simple as a rinse, wash, and repeat cycle played on the health and medical stage.

                                          Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                          engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                          wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                          the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                            BioEclectic @Amazoniac
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                                            @Amazoniac
                                            I had only doublechecked a valuable page or two that i knew had been archived, the pages were there. I then commented here about archiving in general, then a day or so later my saved archive links came up empty. This is using the waybackmachine of course, i can't speak for other archive methods.

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