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      Regina @A Former User
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      @C-Mex Maybe there was/is no "Charlie."
      The term "Charlie" used by the military mainly refers to enemy soldiers.

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        A Former User @Regina
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        @Regina

        That's an interesting point. The Viet Cong -- Soviet-backed communists -- were called Charlie. Yes, I am thinking that there is no 'Charlie' except as an invented character, and there never was.

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          ilovethesea @A Former User
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          @C-Mex I found his name - Bruno Vandekerkhove was the founder of Peatarian

          That’s from here https://web.archive.org/web/20151220053743/http://beesandbutterflies.org/p/Bruno

          List of members here
          https://web.archive.org/web/20160206155604/http://beesandbutterflies.org/users

          This is him https://www.facebook.com/bruno.vandekerckhove.37/
          I remember messaging with him back in the day... he used to call Ray “Papa” 🤣
          Seemed like a real person to me. But who knows.

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            DavidPS
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            It is interesting that Charlie's family business now has a new front page. It is a retail business and has a physical presence in Tallahassee, FL.
            https://lifegivingstore.com/

            https://www.bbb.org/us/fl/tallahassee/profile/health-and-wellness/life-giving-store-0403-236010413

            ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
            ☂️

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              Peatful @A Former User
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              @C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:

              @Regina

              That's an interesting point. The Viet Cong -- Soviet-backed communists -- were called Charlie. Yes, I am thinking that there is no 'Charlie' except as an invented character, and there never was.

              “Charlie” is real

              He was doxxed back in February - or that’s when it was sent to me privately

              That information, I see, no longer exists
              Which is appropriate

              The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

              SD

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                A Former User @Peatful
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                @Peatful said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                @C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                @Regina

                That's an interesting point. The Viet Cong -- Soviet-backed communists -- were called Charlie. Yes, I am thinking that there is no 'Charlie' except as an invented character, and there never was.

                “Charlie” is real

                He was doxxed back in February - or that’s when it was sent to me privately

                That information, I see, no longer exists
                Which is appropriate

                No. The guy who set up the Llfe Giving Store (a likely CIA front) might have been doxxed. You sent me his name privately here at the same time as you asked me what my username on the Forum is/was. Remember?

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                  A Former User @DavidPS
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                  @DavidPS said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                  It is interesting that Charlie's family business now has a new front page. It is a retail business and has a physical presence in Tallahassee, FL.
                  https://lifegivingstore.com/

                  https://www.bbb.org/us/fl/tallahassee/profile/health-and-wellness/life-giving-store-0403-236010413

                  Are you sure? I had questions about this earlier and it turned out there was no physical store. I get this error:

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                  This address looks like a mail service to me, the kind of businesses that will hold or forward your mail for you.

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                    Peatful @A Former User
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                    @C-Mex I went back and read this thread. Where it is headed in it’s entirety. Im curious to see what unfolds.

                    The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                    SD

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                      A Former User @A Former User
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                      @Peatful

                      You also told me that his name was posted on Twitter and that was how you knew it. When I asked you for a link, you couldn't find it.

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                        Peatful @A Former User
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                        @C-Mex ok

                        It was scrubbed
                        Which was appropriate

                        The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                        SD

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                          A Former User @A Former User
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                          @C-Mex https://www.trustpilot.com/review/lifegivingstore.com

                          https://bisprofiles.com/fl/life-giving-store-l20000394744

                          https://bisprofiles.com/fl/such-labs-l20000394729

                          https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.life_giving_store_llc.1e90e5874a7f4bcbb1c57e6412b01985.html

                          .https://www.buzzfile.com/business/Life-Giving-Store-LLC-706-383-1277

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                            A Former User @A Former User
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                            @jwayne

                            Thanks. There's no physical store, just a couple of people as contacts and links with home addresses, one in Florida and one in Georgia, some PO boxes and/or mail services used. I looked around at this earlier because I was trying to figure out how 'Charlie' could be claiming that his business and his family were being threatened when nobody even knows who he is and I had assumed that there must be a physical store for such a thing to be happening.

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                              A Former User @Regina
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                              @Regina said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                              @C-Mex Maybe there was/is no "Charlie."
                              The term "Charlie" used by the military mainly refers to enemy soldiers.

                              You're going to need to press @haidut. Georgi says he talked to "charlie" after the banning, right? And perhaps on other occasions. Maybe Danny Roddy has been in touch with Charlie? Has anyone exchanged PM's with him before in years past?

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                                A Former User @A Former User
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                                @C-Mex The review on BBB matches the female name mentioned (plus an extra one) in the LLC data for both stores. Didn't someone mention charlie was recently divorced, or am I misremembering characters? Couldn't the names/address listed be correct for the actual store and accounts? If so, then its plausible someone easily found this publicly available information and wrote hate mail, etc.

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                                  A Former User
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                                  I predict that the Life Giving Store will be at the forefront of (after purportedly finding discrepancies and/or problems with some of the products they obtain from a third party) calling for federal regulation in the supplement industry.

                                  Edit: And since the Life Giving Store will be linked with the Ray Peat Forum, some people will wrongly conclude Peat's endorsement of this and that this is a 'continuation and improvement on the life's work of Ray Peat'.

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                                    A Former User @A Former User
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                                    @jwayne said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                    @C-Mex The review on BBB matches the female name mentioned (plus an extra one) in the LLC data for both stores. Didn't someone mention charlie was recently divorced, or am I misremembering characters? Couldn't the names/address listed be correct for the actual store and accounts? If so, then its plausible someone easily found this publicly available information and wrote hate mail, etc.

                                    Earlier on in this thread, there was a link to a guy's name as owner of the 'store' in FL, and his name was associated with some name/addresses in GA. I hadn't seen some of the profiles that you sent so they may be new. There's no physical store -- if you look at the addresses on a map they're in wooded and secluded residential areas, and one was in Florida and the second now in Georgia within this short span of time. I guess the guy's name might have been doxxed, hate mail, whatever, but the way 'Charlie' made it out sounded more like people were physically going after him or his store, but that just may have been my impression. Anyway, the whole thing is a fake, a front, and whoever 'Charlie' is or isn't, wasn't even genuine about having any relationship to the store to begin with. Maybe that link only became convenient to the narrative they are trying to sell much later.

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                                      A Former User @Peatful
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                                      @Peatful said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                      @C-Mex ok

                                      It was scrubbed
                                      Which was appropriate

                                      I haven't doxxed anybody, nor have I revealed anything that isn't publicly available. Please refrain from instructing people what to post and contacting me privately.

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                                      You didn't have problem giving me his name when you thought I didn't know it.

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                                      Or telling me info that you said was on Twitter, but now claim was sent to you privately. Why did you want to know my username on RPF and was that the real reason you contacted me?

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                                      Edit: I didn't look very hard, but I wasn't able to corroborate any of these claims about the supposed 'Charlile' person. I presume this to be just another deflection to the 'Charlie is just a really bad guy' narrative.

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                                        Peatful @A Former User
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                                        @C-Mex
                                        it’s called discretion or being socially gracious to me.

                                        The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                        SD

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                                          Mulloch94
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                                          My opinion is he's a real guy. The idea that he's some mastermind disinformation agent is really just an insult to disinformation agents, lol. I think he's a normal dude who's honestly not that bright. It's entirely possible to slander someone and mislead people through sheer stupidity and not intentional malice. Charles strikes me as the latter.

                                          The gig will be up in a year or two. It's really a matter of when, not if, other people realize this toxic bile theory isn't making them healthier. His revenue stream with his businesses will begin to dry up and stabilize on a fringe minority who "supports the cause." I think this was more or less just a rebranding of sorts to draw more financial opportunity.

                                          Doxxing may be frowned upon but seriously, wtf is going to happen to this guy? Literally nothing. Worse case scenario he wakes up one morning and steps outside to see a million carrots sticking out of his yard 🤣

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                                            A Former User @Mulloch94
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                                            @Mulloch94

                                            Liver stuck to his window if we really wanted to horrify him

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