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Taurine extends life up to 12%

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    Peatly
    last edited by Apr 1, 2024, 8:23 PM

    Taurine is underrated

    The potential health benefits of taurine in cardiovascular disease

    Treatment of gastritis

    A successful depopulation agenda requires high excess death rates, lower birth rates and for the majority to vilify those that question it.

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      A Former User
      last edited by A Former User Apr 1, 2024, 8:32 PM Apr 1, 2024, 8:25 PM

      Ok but supplement is bullshit and impure

      This sounds like saying eat more red meat if anything

      we need REAL FOOD grown in NATURE eating the animals natural diet not more lab made supplements - fk knows what they put in it, I've seen how you synthesise 'natural' chemicals, it's really quite a messy and impure process compared to how a natural animal would do it.

      I've seen how you make capsaicin, the thing that makes pepper spicy, it's really a messy process and its most likely very similar when you synthesise say taurine in a lab.

      Sheep, cows and goats are natures taurine factory. Or if no meat theres probably vegetarian food you can get taurine from

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        DavidPS
        last edited by DavidPS Apr 1, 2024, 8:49 PM Apr 1, 2024, 8:43 PM

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          A Former User @DavidPS
          last edited by A Former User Apr 1, 2024, 8:52 PM Apr 1, 2024, 8:51 PM

          @DavidPS

          But wouldn't this be full of mercury. But freshwater fish? Now we are getting somewhere?

          I had butter fried fish last night from a lake. very good

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            DavidPS
            last edited by DavidPS Apr 1, 2024, 9:47 PM Apr 1, 2024, 9:47 PM

            @Peatly said in Taurine extends life up to 12%:

            Taurine is underrated

            I agree.
            Researchers identify amino acid that may play a key role for predicting and treating long COVID>

            ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
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              Sunniva @DavidPS
              last edited by Apr 2, 2024, 9:52 AM

              @DavidPS
              It is interesting that chicken is higher than beef 🤔.
              I make gelatin weekly from pastured chicken wings, but I never end up eating the actual chicken. Maybe I should.

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                cremes
                last edited by Apr 2, 2024, 11:04 AM

                This topic was covered in a recent Brad Marshal video. Scallops are apparently one of nature's highest sources of taurine. I try and eat scallops twice a week. I agree that natural sources are superior, but I also use Purebulk and add 2-3 grams of taurine to my morning tea. Enjoying a few sips of that right now...

                Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. If you can't find a natural source, I think manmade is suitable. IMHO.

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                  DavidPS @cremes
                  last edited by DavidPS Apr 2, 2024, 12:03 PM Apr 2, 2024, 12:01 PM

                  @cremes - I also use taurine powder to boost the amount in my diet. I have experienced no ill effects from 6 grams per day.

                  This study from 2004 convinced me to use this inexpensive supplement. Taurine was benefical in mice at every age as shown by comparing the blue to the control mice line in Fig.2.
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                  ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
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                    Peatly @DavidPS
                    last edited by Apr 2, 2024, 7:32 PM

                    @DavidPS said in Taurine extends life up to 12%:

                    @Peatly said in Taurine extends life up to 12%:

                    Taurine is underrated

                    I agree.
                    Researchers identify amino acid that may play a key role for predicting and treating long COVID>

                    Thanks. Long covid is mostly vaccine injury and/or reaction to shedding imo. Regardless, taurine would be helpful because it is a natural angiotensin receptor blocker – see table 1 of this article. See also this post of Ray talking about angiotensin receptors being helpful for vaccine injury.

                    Magnesium should be helpful too (so are lots of other nutrients but I mention magnesium because it is often paired with taurine).

                    How magnesium deficiency might contribute to the long COVID-19 syndrome.

                    Role of magnesium in regulation of lung function

                    A successful depopulation agenda requires high excess death rates, lower birth rates and for the majority to vilify those that question it.

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                      DavidPS @Peatly
                      last edited by DavidPS Apr 2, 2024, 9:46 PM Apr 2, 2024, 9:30 PM

                      @Peatly - Thanks for the article. I see that taurine is one of 10 Angiotensin-Receptor Blockers in the table.
                      • Potassium (K+)
                      • Taurine
                      • Resveratrol
                      • Fiber
                      • Garlic
                      • Vitamin C
                      • Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine)
                      • Coenzyme Q10
                      • Celery
                      • Gamma linolenic acid/dihomo-gammalinolenic acid

                      There is nothing to suggest that taurine would be the star Angiotensin-Receptor Blocker that would enter into Phase 3 trials.

                      In addition, taurine is listed in 5 different categories in the table. There is nothing to suggest that is because it is Angiotensin-Receptor Blocker that it is creating interest as a possible solution to long covid.

                      An alternate explaination might be that it is deficient in the elderly (and sick?) and restoring youthful levels helps in long covid.

                      Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

                      We can disagree on this matter.

                      ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
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                        Peatly @DavidPS
                        last edited by Apr 3, 2024, 5:31 PM

                        @DavidPS It doesn’t have to be either or. You are right CoQ10 could have been studied and it was

                        Coenzyme Q10 as Treatment for Long Term COVID-19

                        High-dose coenzyme Q10 therapy versus placebo in patients with post COVID-19 condition: a randomized, phase 2, crossover trial

                        Clearly taurine helps in a way that q10 does not

                        Functional Role of Taurine in Aging and Cardiovascular Health: An Updated Overview

                        From the article
                        "The beneficial effects of taurine on Ca2+ and sodium (Na+) handling [89,90,99,100,101,102,103], myocardial energetics [104,105], and cellular signaling pathways (including glucose transport, 3-phosphoinositide-dependent protein kinase-1, AKT, sirtuin 1 (SIRT1), FOXO3, p38, NFkappaB, and others) [106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121] are thought to underlie its major cardioprotective effects. Other mechanisms include the promotion of natriuresis and diuresis, most likely via an osmoregulatory activity in the kidney, a regulation of vasopressin release, and a modulation of the atrial natriuretic factor secretion [122,123,124,125]. In addition, taurine has been shown to attenuate the actions of angiotensin II on its downstream signaling pathways, on Ca2+ transport, and on protein synthesis [113]."

                        I came across this - so leaving it here too

                        Angiotensin-Converting Enzyme 2: SARS-CoV-2 Receptor and Regulator of the Renin-Angiotensin System

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