Dad’s blood sugar is not going down

[ashou]

Hey guys,

My Dads fasting blood sugar in the morning remains high (around 150-170) despite various supplementation and a largely pufa reduced diet- I have checked it on various machines. He is currently on:

Pyrucet - 8 drops after meals
Vanadium with chromium- twice a day
Aspirin- 325mg
Famotidine - twice a day
Vitamin B complex dropper from forefront
Pregnenolone 70mg
Vitamin D3 with K2- 5000iu
Dhea 2.5mg
Nicotinomide riboside 250mg

He also does red light therapy at night. I got him off metformin and am continuing him on glimepiride 4mg bid because otherwise his blood sugar would be even higher but I’m running out of ideas now. Any help is appreciated

[cs3000]

@ashou is he hypothyroid? as good thyroid hormone function needed to have enough pancreatic b cells around for insulin to release from , (whats his temperature under the tongue 1hr after eating + heartrate?)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8987680/

Thyroid Hormone T3 Counteracts STZ Induced Diabetes in Mouse
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3103518/

[Peatly]

Has he tried high dose thiamine?

Diabetes and Thiamine: A Novel Treatment Opportunity

Thiamine Deficiency and Aberrant Fat Metabolism: Clues to Adverse Reactions

This is a good article about the significance of parathyroid hormone and metabolic diseases

The association of obesity with parathyroid hormone in healthy older adults

Getting enough calcium and vitamin D should help

[evan.hinkle]

Circulating endotoxin can keep blood sugar high, (used to be me). Try two tablespoons of activated charcoal in 8oz of water and then check blood sugar in 15 minute intervals.

If the charcoal lowers his blood sugar than you have a bacterial issue and probably want to look into tetracycline class antibiotics with occasional charcoal to mop up the dead bacteria.

None of this is ultimately a solution however. Ultimately only improved immunity and adequate thyroid function will keep bacteria and endotoxin in check permanently without having to rely on antibiotics, charcoal, and carrot/mushrooms/bamboo shoots.

There are many causes of high blood sugar, this just happened to be the cause of mine. Hope this helps.

[ashou]

Thank you so much for all the insight- you guys are amazing- I just ordered TSH, thyroid panel, rT3 and prolactin lab work to get some insight to his thyroid and prolactin levels- WILL UPDATE

[Mulloch94]

You may also want to add starch-reduced diet to the menu as well. Fruits, honey, milk, and sucrose are carb sources with less impact on blood glucose levels. If you do eat starch, things like oat bran would be a good choice, because the usable glucose is locked up in a lot of fiber which will slow the impact on blood sugar. Mostly good fiber too, the insoluble stuff that's important for sweeping endotoxin producing bacteria out.

[ashou]

@evan-hinkle

TSH- 2.6
T4- 7.2
T3- 24
Free thyroxine- 1.7
Reverse T3- 12.1
Prolactin- 7.2

I just started him on doxycycline 25mg twice a day
Would some cynomel or cynoplus be necessary?

[evan.hinkle]

@ashou Based on Broda Barnes and Peat’s work that TSH is pretty high. I believe Peat typically said people don’t feel well until TSH is under 1.

Pulse and temperature will also be important if you plan to try thyroid. Peat advocated about a half grain increase every two weeks, (for T3/T4 combo) and about 3 mcg/hr of T3, (if T3 is being used alone).

[LucH]

Hi,
The order in which you eat your food plays a huge role in the metabolic effect. Eating carbs last versus first is more beneficial in reducing insulin and glucose, which plays a big role in weight gain. To maximize weight loss, eat the carbs last. Dr Jason Fung reviews the studies showing this effect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8TeVf6rR7k

Note that the first meal of the day has a huge impact on insulin secretion for the whole day.
Source : doi: 10.2337/dc15-0429
Shukla AP, leesbuRG, Thomas CE, Aronne IN. Food Order has a Significant Impact on Post-prandial Glucose Levels. The obesity society’s 2014 Annual Scientific Meeting. Diabetes care. 2015

[DavidPS]

@ashou -Another easy hack to try is get your dad to go for a 10 minute walk after eating. The muscles in the body will soak up extra glucose from the blood if they are being used. It is not the walking that is important. Rather it is moving the muscles. Housework works as well. LOL

Exercise after You Eat: Hitting the Postprandial Glucose Target

Naturally, the more glucose in the meal the move movement will be needed.

[DavidPS]