Consensus on a good Vitamin C source?
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Ray Peat said:
"Over the next 20 years, my own increased sensitivity to synthetic ascorbate led me to look for such reactions in others. The same people who reacted to it often reacted similarly to riboflavin and rutin, which were also made from cornstarch by oxidation. I ascribed the reaction to some industrial contaminant that they had in common, possibly the heavy metals introduced with the sulfuric acid. The heavy metal contamination of synthetic ascorbate is so great that one 500 mg tablet dissolved in a liter of water produces free radicals at a rate that would require a killing dose of x-rays to equal. The only clean and safe vitamin C now available is that in fresh fruits, meats, etc. The commercial stuff is seriously dangerous."
https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/vitamin-c-supplements-heavy-metal-contamination-ray-peat.26332/
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@LetTheRedeemed I'm looking for topical for the head
I'm also looking into megadosing based on some theory I thought I saw about it's impact on lymph node infection. -
@LetTheRedeemed I believe almost all vitamin C supplements are either derives from mold or contain heavy metals. I dont have great experience with supplemental Vit C
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@Serotoninskeptic I know, that's what stinks. Quali C is sounding safe...
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@LetTheRedeemed Ive never tried it. Do you have any good testimonies from people who have used it?
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The high dose folks over at the old forum only used Quali-C, have seen it in many posts. Made in Scotland using non-GMO corn etc, etc.
Have been using Quali-C about 3 or 4 years myself however my daily dose varies between 200-1000mg depending. There were times early on when i would take 2-3 grams a day for a few weeks straight with no ill effects to speak of.
I do recall the standard Chinese Vit-C giving me a bit of a runny nose pretty consistently.
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Yes, this has already been discussed hundreds of times at the Ray Peat forum.
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@AinmBeo I wanted to know what other people may have thought with any later evidence. I’ve read all the old rpf posts and in fact linked the forum discussion here
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@BioEclectic thanks for sharing. I’m probably gonna go with that one
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@Serotoninskeptic no just what’s shared on rpf
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@LetTheRedeemed Eat fruit and vegetables
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Consensus on a good Vitamin C source?:
@Serotoninskeptic no just what’s shared on rpf
Okay thank you
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@jwayne I do, and I’m looking for a supplement for experimentation with therapeutic high doses unobtainable from foods.
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I second Quali-C, i recently took a dose of 15-20mg a day for one week to get over a heavy cold(worth noting that bowel tolerance can be reached!). Cold has now gone. I now regularly still take 5-10mg as its cold season here.
Some interesting info from dr sarah myhill here:
https://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Vitamin_C_-learn_to_use_this_vital_tool_well%E2%80%93_the_key_is_getting_the_dose_right
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Ah sorry newbie, my link doesnt work, but a search of “dr sarah myhill vitamin c” should bring it up.
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@josh interesting. Thanks for your testimony and the link!
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@josh
Hey Josh, for clarification purposes i believe you may have meant grams as opposed to milligrams?Just wanted to prevent future readers from getting confused.
Am also familiar with the Dr Myhill website, will dig up that article soon.
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Thanks @BioEclectic yes sorry i do mean grams.
Just out of interest, I have been doing co2 Baths recently, using a mix of bicarbonate of soda, and citric acid. Well, I’ve run out of citric acid and found a spare tub of ascorbic acid (vit c). My thought was mixing ascorbic acid and sodium bicarbonate would make sodium ascorbate. Anyway, i’m sat in it now as I write this and it seems to work just as well, Skin is going pink! It seems to take more ascorbic acid than I would normally use for citric acid, But an added benefit is im sat in the bath full of sodium ascorbate to absorb transdermally plus co2?
Could this be a useful way to bypass the gut and absorb more vitamin C for say a cold, would i actually absorb that much transdermally? Avoiding the problem of bowel tolerance. I’ve heard an IV Vitamin C can go up to 200 grams, so thought would be okay from a toxicity point of view, can anyone see any issues with this?
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@josh
Potential issues would be the source of ascorbic acid, if it's contaminated with metals as it often is, and would they absorb through the skin. Another concern with standard Vit-C is the toxic mold remnants from the manufacturing process and if they would cause any issues transdermally.The same questions and concerns would apply to citric acid as well.
I'm guessing you're not using Quali-C in the bath as that seems prohibitively expensive.
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@BioEclectic said in Consensus on a good Vitamin C source?:
@josh
Potential issues would be the source of ascorbic acid, if it's contaminated with metals as it often is, and would they absorb through the skin. Another concern with standard Vit-C is the toxic mold remnants from the manufacturing process and if they would cause any issues transdermally.The same questions and concerns would apply to citric acid as well.
I'm guessing you're not using Quali-C in the bath as that seems prohibitively expensive.
Thanks @BioEclectic. damn! Didnt realise citric acid has the same issues as ascorbic acid, there goes the bath for absorbing co2, though it makes me feel so good in the morning, think ill try the co2 bin bag again.
Yeah unfortunately not using quali-c for the bath, just orally, probably cheaper to bath in Perrier.
