Oral steroids. Tbol/Dbol/Var
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Ive been looking into oral steroids. Seems some are generally safe taken on their own and in reasonable doses. Anyone have experience with tbol/dbol/var? If so which do you prefer? Would you recommend based on your experience
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@Serotoninskeptic pin something instead of playing around with insignificant amounts of oral steroids that are still a burden to your liver
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@Cezar4911 said in Oral steroids. Tbol/Dbol/Var:
@Serotoninskeptic pin something instead of playing around with insignificant amounts of oral steroids that are still a burden to your liver
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Here is what pinning something will do:
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Unless a very short ester is used (ex. Propionate), it will take weeks to even feel an effect
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You will be injecting foreign material into the muscle/subcutaneous space that is likely to contain seed oils and is guaranteed to contain preservatives (BA, BB)
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You will be guaranteed to be shut down if you run the injectable cycle for a time frame that makes any sense (16-24 weeks), and the suppression will last months after your last shot. Only way to mitigate is by taking enclomiphene (a potentially harmful pharma drug) or a powerful AI like aromasin or arimadex which if not dosed correctly will result in horrible low estrogen sides.
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You will more than likely experience gyno or hair loss or both if you run enough injectable gear to get a meaningful effect. Even at TRT doses of testosterone, 20-70% of men had gyno.
Here is what running reasonable (20-30 mg) of tbol/var/dbol per day will do:
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Will not suppress LH, FSH, GnRH to a meaningful extent.
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Can get you amazing gains in the 6 week time frame that studies show is the time during which 90% of muscle gain and strength is accrued because of AR downregulation, even when using injectable cycles.
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Allows you to cycle off after 6 weeks, after which your T levels will be normal and you can decide if another 6 week cycle is in order.
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Will not significantly increase liver enzymes (very small increases were found in studies, but that can likely be mitigated or even abolished with NAC, TUDCA, vitamin C)
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Will not give you gyno or hair loss, 19/20 times.
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@jamezb46 do you take any oral steroids
if so, which ones?
and what do you think about SARMS? thank you!!
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Yes, I did a 6 week cycle of tbol. Waiting until some injuries heal before I go back on.
I don't think sarms are as safe or effective as the orals I mentioned. But if you have some research showing that they're safe and effective, I'd be open to seeing it. I'm just not aware that they do anything better than tbol/var/dbol already can. They were also mainly developed by modifying antiandrogens, with some exceptions. Some are mixed agonists/antagonists. I'm also not sure about liver health at effective doses.
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Have taken all, tbol and dbol are fine if you don’t mind a little bloat. They definitely work in the gym as your strength will go up a noticeable amount. Need tums on hand for them bc the acid reflux is real after a few days of it. Var is safer but you need higher doses if you’re a man so it’s better to order it in bulk from PPL rather than spend hundreds on capsules. I just started anadrol up again the other day after losing a bunch of muscle from travel and getting sick and I’ve bounced back pretty easily. Just can’t have any bit of alcohol when you’re eating any AAS or else your BP will skyrocket and your bowel movements will hurt.
