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    yerrag @jorda11
    last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 12:50 AM

    @jorda11

    how would taking D3 in excess cause calcium levels to go high? It's only activated D3 in the form of calcitriol that would case PTH to be high enough to trigger osteoclastic activity, where calcium is leeched from bones to increase serum calcium.

    even if you took plenty of calcium, it would end up building bone structure when the ratio of extracellular calcium to cellular calcium exceeds an optimal ratio of 15000, but if you're hypothyroid all bets are off. More calcium would end up in the cells and over time this would lead to internal calcification and fibrosis. With tissues and organs stiffened and shrinking, it would easily cause high blood pressure. But hypertension is always a result, or effect of a larger cause. Hypertension is never a primary cause, but a secondary one. But our doctors never got the memo, because there is none.

    Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
    engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
    wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
    the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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      slawekb @A Former User
      last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 12:52 AM

      @sneedful

      Ive tried mag and potassium but no improvement

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        yerrag @slawekb
        last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 1:15 AM

        @slawekb

        If you're not into finding root causes and just merely drown yourself in a smorgasbord of substances, you won't go anywhere.

        Since doctors are not trained to troubleshoot, and if you don't do it yourself, the default solution is to take prescription drugs.

        It's a tall order, which is why I've never found a doctor, conventional or wholistic, who knows how to go about it.

        I do it against all odds, but glad for reading Ray Peat and complementing his ideas with those outside bioenergetics, I get some sort of mishmash or fusion going in an admittedly amateurish fashion by connecting the dots myself. But it's tedious. It's paying off in the better understanding I have now, even though I am heavily dependent on my n=1. As it has been a solo flight. Working as a collaboration is harder as synergistic minds don't exist in a world filled with myths and made up of imaginary gremlins and banshees written by ghost writers in medical texts.

        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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          sweetpeat @slawekb
          last edited by Oct 19, 2024, 2:44 PM

          @slawekb Have you tried taurine? I have personally found it helpful. (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2586397/)

          Other things to consider (the following are from my notes from the other forum):

          Thyroid, aspirin, vitamin K, vitamin C, taurine, hawthorn RPF, Vitamin e, chondroitin sulfate

          Studies have shown 580mg of ubiquinol/day increased ejection fraction up to 77%. Here's one study I was able to find quickly: (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19096107/)Ubiquinol worked where equal doses of CoQ10 didn't. Dr. Peat says Vitamins K2 and E work at the CoQ10 site to enhance the effects of CoQ10.

          Taurine, Vitamin K2, Magnesium are essential for blood pressure control and vascular health. These three can easily replace hypertension drugs.

          T3-T4, Inosine, COQ10, Calcium are safest positive inotropic agents. Meaning that they all strengthen the force of the heartbeat without causing tachycardia.

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            mexican_coke_fan @slawekb
            last edited by Oct 20, 2024, 2:30 AM

            My mom swears by chayote. She would make it in a soup, when she had it she would have to be careful because she also took meds to lower her blood pressure, so sometimes it would get too low.

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