Super High blood preassure
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@jorda11 said in Super High blood preassure:
Also dealing with very high blood pressure, around 180/120
dont know the cause , but I did notice that vitamin d3 4000iu a day
pushed it up to 220/150 once
and when I quit the d3 it lowered back to 180/120 after 2 weeks or soIt may be seen as a negative with the blood pressure increasing, but when a deficiency is addressed, such as may be the case with taking vitamin, metabolism may improve, and with that more demand for the substrates oxygen and sugar would be met by increased circulation. This would require higher blood pressure.
This is the case also when methylene blue is used to improve metabolism
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@Serotoninskeptic
Interesting.
Thank you for your comments.How bp correlates with sugar utilization?
Im trying to understand the mechanism.Btw
Once i added simple sugars to my diet, i lost a lot of body fat and had more energy
But my blood preassure did not improve, actually increased a lot. And with this frequent urination i feel thirsty most all the time.My blood sugar is fine, my thyroid , based on tsh levels is apparently fine too.....my doc doesnt seem to know whats the cause except "everything is genetic" and tries to drug me up.
Im trying to figure out root cause and at the moment thinking of focusing on thyroid and gut health.
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@yerrag
What are your thoughts on supplementing albumin? -
@jorda11
How do you feel at 180/120? -
@slawekb I think it's better to have your liver healthy and supply yourself with enough protein and sulfur so it continues to make albumin. Egg white has albumin but I personally don't think it makes much difference in helping me lower BP.
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@slawekb i do suffer from some headaches
if the BP goes higher i feel pressure in my nose and head -
@yerrag hmm interesting, i was thinking my calcium levels might have been to high from the d3
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mag, potassium, vitamin e.
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@jorda11
I feel a preassure around my neck, right where thyroid is...almost as if someone is trying to choke me...gently
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how would taking D3 in excess cause calcium levels to go high? It's only activated D3 in the form of calcitriol that would case PTH to be high enough to trigger osteoclastic activity, where calcium is leeched from bones to increase serum calcium.
even if you took plenty of calcium, it would end up building bone structure when the ratio of extracellular calcium to cellular calcium exceeds an optimal ratio of 15000, but if you're hypothyroid all bets are off. More calcium would end up in the cells and over time this would lead to internal calcification and fibrosis. With tissues and organs stiffened and shrinking, it would easily cause high blood pressure. But hypertension is always a result, or effect of a larger cause. Hypertension is never a primary cause, but a secondary one. But our doctors never got the memo, because there is none.
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Ive tried mag and potassium but no improvement
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If you're not into finding root causes and just merely drown yourself in a smorgasbord of substances, you won't go anywhere.
Since doctors are not trained to troubleshoot, and if you don't do it yourself, the default solution is to take prescription drugs.
It's a tall order, which is why I've never found a doctor, conventional or wholistic, who knows how to go about it.
I do it against all odds, but glad for reading Ray Peat and complementing his ideas with those outside bioenergetics, I get some sort of mishmash or fusion going in an admittedly amateurish fashion by connecting the dots myself. But it's tedious. It's paying off in the better understanding I have now, even though I am heavily dependent on my n=1. As it has been a solo flight. Working as a collaboration is harder as synergistic minds don't exist in a world filled with myths and made up of imaginary gremlins and banshees written by ghost writers in medical texts.
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@slawekb Have you tried taurine? I have personally found it helpful. (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2586397/)
Other things to consider (the following are from my notes from the other forum):
Thyroid, aspirin, vitamin K, vitamin C, taurine, hawthorn RPF, Vitamin e, chondroitin sulfate
Studies have shown 580mg of ubiquinol/day increased ejection fraction up to 77%. Here's one study I was able to find quickly: (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19096107/)Ubiquinol worked where equal doses of CoQ10 didn't. Dr. Peat says Vitamins K2 and E work at the CoQ10 site to enhance the effects of CoQ10.
Taurine, Vitamin K2, Magnesium are essential for blood pressure control and vascular health. These three can easily replace hypertension drugs.
T3-T4, Inosine, COQ10, Calcium are safest positive inotropic agents. Meaning that they all strengthen the force of the heartbeat without causing tachycardia.
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My mom swears by chayote. She would make it in a soup, when she had it she would have to be careful because she also took meds to lower her blood pressure, so sometimes it would get too low.
