What do you guys think of Trump now that he won
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But I look back into the years after World War I, and with the Deutschmark so devalued and the German people so impoverished and see in their rise from such hopelessness a lot of hope. For it was from such despair that they began their comeback from ignominy into relevance.
Normally I might be more charitable to this false consciousness you have, but seeing as it would be my age group on the front lines of this Hiterlite Hyperwar (which was the only function of the Nazi Regime...) you gesture at, I can't really forgive it. You peddle the Regime's History Channel line about what Hitler was. The rise of Hitlerism on X and other places is not the result of "ourguys in control", but exactly the same forces you describe as polluted doing their work.
You are aware that Hitler didn't win a formal popular vote, right? He was defeated in the one election he ran in. The elected president, Hindenburg, gave him the role of Chancellor partially at the behest of the German national bourgeoisie. Hitler's Nazi party then committed a false flag attack to justify an expansion of Hitler's powers as chancellor. Also with the full support of the German national bourgeoisie. It was a national referendum held after the death of the president Hindenburg that lead to Hitler absorbing the office of President and becoming Fuhrer. This referendum carried out in an atmosphere of intimidation by the paramilitary wing of the Party, the SA.
Hitler failed at the one thing he wanted to do since the whiny Mein Kampf, killing millions of Germans. The nation was split in two by the victorious powers, breaking up all that was there beforehand.
Of when you face the enormous debt we keep on accumulating and see a way out of it. Overwhelming and seemingly impossible.
Only Lenin cancelled all foreign debt, and for this he immediately faced a military intervention from the West. The West didn't directly attack Hitler until 1944, one year before the end of this regime and after the USSR had already made it clear that they would be victorious. Hitler payed debts to the bank of international settlements even in the thick of the war.
This fake revolution trick is so fucking old, and our lives in this case actually do depend on you not falling for it: I don't mean it in the Kamaloid way. Indeed, Kamala bears similarity to Hitler insofar as she never won a DNC primary. It was the Nazis that popularized the consumption of Soybeans.
Lenin.
"Pornography taking the place of politics" is an excellent description of the ridiculous Anime Music Videos Elon Musk posts. Or the "edit culture" that Neo-Nazis thrive on more generally.
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@Rah1woot said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:
Normally I might be more charitable to this false consciousness you have, but seeing as it would be my age group on the front lines of this Hiterlite Hyperwar (which was the only function of the Nazi Regime...) you gesture at, I can't really forgive it. You peddle the Regime's History Channel line about what Hitler was. The rise of Hitlerism on X and other places is not the result of "ourguys in control", but exactly the same forces you describe as polluted doing their work.
Answer me straight: Are you a Talmudist or not? I would normally not ask this, but how does the "Regime's History Channel" be allowed to perpetuate the narrative you accuse me of spreading when all media is sterilized of anything positive of Hitler? Your attempt at twisting is so Talmudic ans Mossadic you betray yourself already from the get go.
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I'll be honest, I genuinely don't know what you mean when you say "Talmudist", other than a reference to the Talmud that I've never read. I'm not Jewish.
Regime's History Channel" be allowed to perpetuate the narrative you accuse me of spreading when all media is sterilized of anything positive of Hitler
What are you talking about? The History Channel exactly portrays Hitler as the popular badass you apparently take him to be, with Epic Superweapons defeated only by DIrty, Unfair, Eurasian Hordes, rather than the whiny vegetarian drug addict failure that he objectively was, who took power by surreptitious collaboration with Big Business, arson, and intimidation.
Hitler was literally a Dog Dad.
w.r.t. Mossad... Hitler exported Jews to Palestine, laying some of the groundwork for the murderous regime in that state today.
Like look at this shit. This was on PBS.
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It makes you even worse. Being a white apologist for the Talmudists who are behind almost all of the carnage in the Napoleonic wars, and continuing on to the world wars of the last century, and continuing on with all the limited scale and regional wars we see now.
I would be honest just as you have been honest with me, that the details of German local politics are lost on me particularly to the rise of Hitler. But I don't doubt your recounting of the atmosphere of fear that helped him rise, but in politics, amidst the scale of Talmudist efforts to destabilize Germany with the money and power of Jewish financiers, who don't play by rules, would you see yourself as being able to get to a position of leadership by playing square?
You look at the soiled boots and say dirty while you overlook and trivialize how Hitler resurrected Germany's economic stature despite the odds imposed on Germany by the heavy reparations imposed on it by the Talmudist power brokers in the Treaty of Versailles? How convenient to your shaping of your own version of history.
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who don't play by rules, would you see yourself as being able to get to a position of leadership by playing square?
No. But it's not like Hitler actually challenged the existing leadership of the nation, the national bourgeoisie of Germany (Krupp corporation, etc), that had led them to move against France during WW1 for its coal in the first place. That's what makes it a fake revolution. He carried out their political will perfectly.
As an illustrative, here is Mussolini bowing before the King of Italy.
you overlook and trivialize how Hitler resurrected Germany's economic stature despite the odds imposed on Germany
I do overlook it. I can point out that I am somewhat aware of such things. Volkswagen, Autobahn. I used to think like you.
But even throwing what we might call bourgeois morality out the window (i.e., let's ignore Hitler murdering 25% of the Belarusian population, for ex.), it absolutely does not matter to me when Hitler built these things directly to fight a war he then lost. This is where the great divide between the Gnostic camp (generally your position) and the Materialist one lies. You think a concept of a Good Idea a-priori of reality is what matters. Victory in actual History is infinitely more important.
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@Rah1woot said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:
Victory in actual History is infinitely more important.
And that makes you an apologist for the victors. It matters little what your belief and concept of virtues is. Winning is your virtue. Everything else goes to the scrap heap.
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It matters little what your belief and concept of virtues is. Winning is your virtue. Everything else goes to the scrap heap.
That is correct. I believe that systems at war generally win if they are more correct than their opponents and lose when they are less correct. If there is any a-priori virtue I have it is an estimation of harmony with material reality. And this is exactly what Peat teaches us. That improvement of the real material cell function is more important than any ideology about how PUFA is secretly good for you.
So-called "virtues" that lose aren't worth anything. The virtuous is what is real.
Christ won. For instance.
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@Rah1woot Your honesty is encouraging but there is nothing Peaty about what you said.
The powers that be impose vaccines and the false idea of the germ theory and that of random mutations instead of the wisdom of the body and the terrain theory.
Your belief makes you hostage to the false narrative of the medical industrial complex.
They are winning. And you are just bowing to them.
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They are winning.
What gives me hope is exactly how I recognize that they are losing. Look internationally. The domestic powers have no incentive to improve things until they are challenged from outside. They know this and are getting increasingly desperate and violent. MAGA as you identify is not a full solution but actually opens the space for anti-vaccine, anti-war ideas to control the discourse. RFK as health minister and such. I could see one or two factional splits in MAGA leading to a new golden age.
But true to my word, History will be the judge. The beauty is that their false ideas will be what leads to their failure. You cannot ultimately win against a true idea with a false idea in your heart. No matter how titanic the power may seem today, if their trend is downwards (as it clearly is), they will lose.
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I can only hope the eventual outcome will see you right. The plot and its twist and turns will be a roller coaster ride, with no engineer/designer guiding a predictable outcome.
If you are right, it will have to involve a once in an epoch reshaping of history where mankind undergoes a mass awakening that makes us act in unison in overthrowing the system lords. Some kind of termite mindmeld may have to happen.
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I forget where I heard it, possibly anabology talking about how the government having power to ban seed oils is not a good thing. RFK came out of nowhere and now is suddenly everywhere, just like Elon. Alex Jones is out of the picture. They just re-brand and prepare for a new role.
I agree with the "banning" criticism - if everyone were educated on these things, maybe the market would shift meaningfully. Then again, the high-tech surveillance market is updating in real-time.
I have a few predictions
1). a "successful" assassination
2). inflation remains high
3). immigration continues to rise
4). or status quo and more money to Israel and Ukraine or some other novel international NATO conflict like Lebanon.Trump has the image of a dictator, implicitly. If it's banning the bad stuff, people love it. If it's creating digital ID and universal tracking and more vaccines, people might be a little skeptical about executive power and cleaning out and restructuring federal agencies. Some of the things he supposedly wanted to do in 2016 were ridiculous, but what's the truth? Does a president run a twitter account where he tweets all caps about bombing other countries? It's kind of a joke at this point.
He's very much a controlled opposition. Mossad or the mysterious cabalist power elites running banking and international trade are in charge. It seems like a big tent and a genuine movement, but it's pretty empty inside, and they know this, and that's why they all take on the spirit of the anti-Christ (Russell Brand, Tucker, trads, and a lot of this alt-health and man-o-sphere, red-pill, free thinking sphere too) which is convincing to a lot of people. Elon is the new "NASA" deception that will probably film a Mars landing.
It's all very tiresome.
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It's not like he accomplished anything in his first term so it'll be more of that I guess, along with his incoherent bragging and the 24/7 wailing of his insufferable, pea-brained critics.
The Empire rolls on.
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DJT hates toxic, ecosystem destroying wind turbines, pedophiles, and baby rapists (just to start). I'm expecting many good things once upside down clown world is done with its engineered, collective melt-down.
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@S-Holmes said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:
DJT hates toxic, ecosystem destroying wind turbines, pedophiles, and baby rapists (just to start). I'm expecting many good things once upside down clown world is done with its engineered, collective melt-down.
Mr. Warpspeed also loves his "beautiful vaccine" and is involved in the greatest mass murder in the history of mankind. I don't think he has ever apologized for his role in this and I don't think raypeatforum hero Kennedy Jr. has ever addressed this publicly since he endorsed Trump. Some people forget very quickly.
But I have to admit, the mental breakdown of "liberals" yesterday was a sight to behold.
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This is why I think the true hope of politics lies in international conflict.
China, Russia, for ex, did not give out Pfizer/mRNA vaccines. Or at least at not nearly the level of the US.
Are those nations "completely pure"? No, absolutely not. But such is the dialectical nature of progression and conflict.
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@Luke said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:
@S-Holmes said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:
DJT hates toxic, ecosystem destroying wind turbines, pedophiles, and baby rapists (just to start). I'm expecting many good things once upside down clown world is done with its engineered, collective melt-down.
Mr. Warpspeed also loves his "beautiful vaccine" and is involved in the greatest mass murder in the history of mankind. I don't think he has ever apologized for his role in this and I don't think raypeatforum hero Kennedy Jr. has ever addressed this publicly since he endorsed Trump. Some people forget very quickly.
But I have to admit, the mental breakdown of "liberals" yesterday was a sight to behold.
Operation Warpspeed actually saved us. (I'm a lifelong ANTI-vaxxer.) When you are forced to choose the lesser evil, what can you do? If he had not initiated Warpspeed we would STILL be in lockdown, waiting on lengthy drug trials to be completed. Many millions would have been without food and other necessities, cut off from their family/support network. (That was the plan to destroy America and the world.) SO MANY businesses and lives were destroyed during the short lockdown. The world would look very different now if DJT hadn't made the tough choice. And although he had nothing whatsoever to do with the plandemic, he would have been blamed no matter what he decided to do.
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@Rah1woot said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:
This is why I think the true hope of politics lies in international conflict.
China, Russia, for ex, did not give out Pfizer/mRNA vaccines. Or at least at not nearly the level of the US.
Are those nations "completely pure"? No, absolutely not. But such is the dialectical nature of progression and conflict.
I believe that most of the USA/Nato/West vs. BRICS conflict is a hoax to create a false binary and that they have the same goals.
This recent article sums it up pretty well in my opinion: https://off-guardian.org/2024/11/02/would-you-like-to-know-what-brics-just-declared/
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@Luke That is a fair belief. More-or-less what I used to think.
I have since been convinced by the actions of these nations (rather than their word) that they use such language to get the WEF people off of their back. China makes something like 54% of world's steel. And so transacting business with the elites on their terms is necessary for the time being.
Admittedly not all BRICS nations can be considered equal in this regard. India is literally ruled by overt fascism. It amuses me to think that the Hitlerite program has been largely realized in India. Do they want to be like India?
But I digress.
Here is Hillary Clinton talking on the subject (China):
https://x.com/ChathamHouse/status/1390284424806289410
We tried. We let them into the World Trade Organization. ... They are a controlled top-down economy.
i.e., "their top-down control doesn't let us get an angle inside."
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Probably a better and far more entertaining parking spot than lmao-Kam.
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@S-Holmes said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:
If he had not initiated Warpspeed we would STILL be in lockdown, waiting on lengthy drug trials to be completed.
The vaccine, the covid seasonal flu hoax, 5G, digital id, internet of bodies, etc it's the same event.
