The benefits of smoking, if any, may be due to lowering endotoxin and estrogen
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@yerrag maybe you can sweat them out in a sauna?
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Ongoing trial:
Efficacy of Nicotine in Preventing COVID-19 Infection (NICOVID-PREV)
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@sneedful said in The benefits of smoking, if any, may be due to lowering endotoxin and estrogen:
@yerrag maybe you can sweat them out in a sauna?
Thanks. It may help.
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@yerrag
I dont know your case at all but I do know that people with sleep apnea caused by small jaws and tongue ties due to improper development have low spo2 levels at night and often have lots of issues as there tongue falls back in thier thoat at night blocking air waking them up giving them a big shot of adrenaline so they cant fall back asleep. Also you cant breath as much air when your airway is obstructed by small jaws.
To fix this do palate expansion then tongue tie release then jaw surgery
Look up "jawhacks " on youtube to learn more its a silent epidemic
Not the ay peat perspective but just something I wanted to share that mainsteam health doesn't talk about -
@gg12 said in The benefits of smoking, if any, may be due to lowering endotoxin and estrogen:
@yerrag
I dont know your case at all but I do know that people with sleep apnea caused by small jaws and tongue ties due to improper development have low spo2 levels at night and often have lots of issues as there tongue falls back in thier thoat at night blocking air waking them up giving them a big shot of adrenaline so they cant fall back asleep. Also you cant breath as much air when your airway is obstructed by small jaws.
To fix this do palate expansion then tongue tie release then jaw surgery
Look up "jawhacks " on youtube to learn more its a silent epidemic
Not the ay peat perspective but just something I wanted to share that mainsteam health doesn't talk aboutI guess you merely scanned my post and missed the part about my lungs becoming edematous being one of two causes my spO2 levels are low. But sleep apnea from obstruction isn't my condition which actually mainstream medicine would point to as a kneejerk response to low spO2 levels during sleep.
I'm not sure what a Peaty explanation to low spO² levels while sleeping is, but I think it would go along the lines of low serum CO2 levels (from poor sugar metabolism) and accompanying high serum acidity from high lactic acid would lead to high breathing rates while asleep, as the respiratory center attempts to correct the high acidity by trying to breathe out CO2 when there really isn't enough serum CO², leading to further lower tissue oxygenation and hypoxia. This. causes the body to have to use the mouth to breathe in addition to the nose, and causes snoring to happen, in an attempt to get more oxygen even while the blood is already carrying enough oxygen already. Even when spO2 levels are high at 99%, people can still snore because the oxygen in blood isn't getting through to the tissues due to low serum CO2.
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
@yerrag Hi yerrag! Hey have you ever used the Peaty suggestion of a negative ion generator? Specifically one with very low O3 production. Danny and Ray talked about it years ago on podcasts and I think Ray was brining it up in the context of helping the lungs get rid of serotonin. I have a few units made by Wein products. No idea if this could help your lung issues but I guess it would help something! Also, this makes me think of @haidut post maybe a year or more ago about air filters being a big source for endotoxin! Because the filters (like a furnace air filter) can shred bacteria as it passes through the filter and some percentage of the bacteria parts end up getting breathed in by us and causing havoc. Not a medical term I don’t think but… I also remember reading an article that Saturated fat is specifically protective for the lungs.
Anyways… I’ll see if I can track this stuff down for you if you’re interested or maybe you’ve been there done that!
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Your timing is perfect! I'm back to having issues sleeping last night. I think it is serotonin buildup due to lungs becoming edematous, and when in bad shape for whatever reason the lungs lose its ability to deactivate serotonin.
I haven't tried using negative ion generators but I think it will help in an incrementally synergistic way, given the edematous condition. I've found using methylene blue, red light, breathing carbogen, vitamin d, eggshell calcium supplementation, magnesium carbonate - altogether help in minimizing the effect of carbon monoxide in causing edema in my lungs, which is the result of heme oxygenase breaking down dead red blood cells producing CO, biliverdin, and iron. I have an ongoing release of previously congested dead rbc's from my lymphatic system which sees no end until all the dead rbc's are flushed out of my system. I'm dealing with the after effects of heart failure which began with bronchitis that caused a mass killing of RBCs that overwhelmed my system. Normally RBCs die and get recycled and/or excreted in small manageable quantities, but in a larger scale the body can't manage it well enough. And I don't think our doctors are trained to handle such cases, which having a Peat viewpoint and approach helps us see through.
So far I've benefited from reading Ray's research and insights into heme oxygenase, and I have an approach to deal with the stressful conditions involving carbon monoxide and iron release by heme oxygenase. The healing and recovery process is slow, and for the next 3 months I imagine I have to be at rest as my breathing is strained and my blood pressure would remain high as a result of my phagocytes having to eat up iron and it's waste be excreted out fecally.
I'd appreciate very much your passing on what info you have on negative ion generators. If I end up buying one, it would just add to my toolbox of useful devices outside of the medical complex, which I haven't regreted acquiring.
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
@yerrag
Keep those bowel movements going! Nothing seems to make my breathing get more comfortably deeper than having a satisfying BM! I’ve been really liking aloe vera inner leaf juice in the morning and a half hour before dinner. And a 1/2 tsp of baking soda water right before bed! K2, and Pau D’arco capsules helps keep the motility motor running.
Don’t like the carbogen? I started looking at that last week. How long does a tank of co2 last if you use it as much as you do?
Thanks!
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I can never say enough good things about carbogen. Ray has spoken a lot about it, but he has not said enough about it but wrap it in an air of mystery when calls carbon dioxide a cardinal adsorbent, leaving me lost in its abstract meaninglessness, as if he was hoping that one of his readers would follow him up with a follow-up question. Just to test their interest in going down a deeper level by asking an intelligent question. But I wish I had asked him.
But I would only have to discover and appreciate carbogen empirically, as getting to use the first time I was struck by its unassuming power. And I am one not easily convinced when a few years ago molecular hydrogen was being promoted by George Steinbrenner in Pat Timpone's podcasts.
But I was saved from a very mysterious infection, which I think was of fungal parasitic origin, and fearing being lumped into just another COVID case in those bluepilled years by hospitals, I had no choice but to treat myself using it, and I healed from that infection.
Now I consider it a must as part of a wholistic treatment for chronic diseases ranging from hypothyroid to infections and cancer, from the mere fact that CO2 is the most important pH buffer in the body. And pH stability is a precondition for healing, without which we have to rely on pharma intervention for mere panaceas, in the form of disappearance of symptoms with the added inconvenience of slow dying from myriad side effects. Which is the main reason carbogen is banned or it made so scarce that having it as readily available as oxygen in tanks would result in a lot more healthy people less in need of expensive pharma intervention.
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
@dapose
A 5lb tank would last me 2 months of use using it at 8 hrs a day. It cost me only $4 to have it refilled in Manila at a CO2 factory thatosrly serves the needs of soda concentrate users at restaurants and beer on tapTemporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
You use it 8 hours a day?! At 5% CO2? I gotta know more about the experience. Do you just feel super relaxed all day? Time dilation? What effects in short/long term do you notice?
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@RandomUser I only began to use 8hrs/day but it was to counteract carbon monoxide that is causing lungs to inflame and to get watery and edematous.
prior to this, at 2 hrs per day, got to alkalize my acidic ecf so I could make antimicrobial treatments using turpentine and essential oil (aromatherapy) more potent. As I prefer these over antibiotics.
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And can you be more specific on what the experience is like when using it that long?
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@yerrag said in The benefits of smoking, if any, may be due to lowering endotoxin and estrogen:
@dapose
A 5lb tank would last me 2 months of use using it at 8 hrs a day. It cost me only $4 to have it refilled in Manila at a CO2 factory thatosrly serves the needs of soda concentrate users at restaurants and beer on tapVery cool yerrag! Thanks for the all the great info! I pray you get some relief from all this edema! May your waters be coherent and your tissues be well! Ha!
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lot more studies about smoking
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3001541/ - Improves cognition
https://www.york.ac.uk/depts/maths/histstat/smoking.htm
https://cfrankdavis.wordpress.com/2015/08/06/william-whitby-smoking-is-good-for-you/
