Pu erh /Theabrownin: weight loss miracle?
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No, this is not me misspelling PUFA and theobromine. This is the hot stuff on' the metabolic front. Pu erh is a tee and theabrownin is one of its main components. Brad Marshall from fire in a bottle made some interesting videos on it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ag_twi4aJWc&t=86sHere's the pros and cons that I found on it:
- Increases UCP1(3- fold), DI02, PGC-1a , Akkermansia,healty bile salts like TUDCA , limits weight gain on high fat diet
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7700314
- Lowers constipation significantly
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24604453/
3.It decreases serotonin and the 5HT2A receptor in the liver, but increases them in the adipose tissue. It also increases decreases SERT and MAO-A, which increases Serotonin. Despite its effect on Serotonin in the adipose tissue, it had striking anti-obesity effects. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10555776/
- It lowers SCD1,which converts SFA's to MUFA's
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC431 9740/
↳ It might be good short-term for weight loss and an increase in Bile acid synthesis and excretion. But the effect on serotonin SERT and MAO-A would be too risky for me to take it long term.
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FWIW I tried Brad Marshall's theabrownin supplement and it didn't seem to affect anything. I think that during weight loss, putting excess stress on the liver/gallbladder in any way is likely to be risky, especially if there is a lot of visceral fat, which will go through the portal vein and be processed through the liver. Gallstones are more common in people who lost weight rapidly, so anything that affects the bile system should be used carefully. Also not to mention how much stuff from China is contaminated with lead, etc.
That said, I think Brad's stearoylethanolamide and succinate supplements (which Peat spoke well of in the past also) have been much more useful for me personally.
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@herayclitus said in Pu erh /Theabrownin: weight loss miracle?:
stearoylethanolamide
What's your experience with that one? And where did Peat speak about it?
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I’ve drank pu-erh tea for over a decade now. Pretty much every day. Used to drink it alot more before I rediscovered the magic of coffee. The pu erh tea I recommend is called Ripe pu erh as apposed to raw pu erh. Ripe is fully aged fully fermented. Raw is very good but needs a lot more attention when brewing and handling. It still has lots of bitter tannins in it and is susceptible to over brewing bitterness. Traditional Chinese “black tea” or pu erh is not going to have any bitter qualities no matter how long you brew it. And has a very earthy slight mushroom smooth taste and should make a cup of broth that is solid black. Devine! Year round, before a meal or after a meal. Dont buy one that is flavored with ginger or chocolate etc until you really try the real deal traditional stuff.
Yum!
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@Mauritio Peat never mentioned SEA afaik, I was referring to the succinate. He mentions it as a relatively safe iron chelator in Nutrition for Women iirc, but I think he stopped recommending it at some point. SEA works like a mild uncoupler for me, especially after a high-carb meal.
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@herayclitus said in Pu erh /Theabrownin: weight loss miracle?:
@Mauritio Peat never mentioned SEA afaik, I was referring to the succinate. He mentions it as a relatively safe iron chelator in Nutrition for Women iirc, but I think he stopped recommending it at some point. SEA works like a mild uncoupler for me, especially after a high-carb meal.
Yeah he stopped recommending succinate although I don't quite understand why. Shouldn't similar acids like malic acid have the same effect..? And they'reir contained in some foods in large amounts.
lnteresting, might give it a try!You might wanna look into niclosamide, which posesses similar qualities.