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      ImTheRange
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      I am a 1st year medical school student (Osteopathic, DO) in the United States. As many of you know, the "mainstream" scientific/medical establishment's advice for health/disease prevention and standard of healthcare is pretty radical and promotes disease. For example, my nutrition course claims saturated fat, sugar, and cholesterol are to be avoided and are correlated with adverse cardiac outcomes.

      How can I be a good and honest doctor regarding this? I suspect I will end up giving dietary advice that follows a bio-energetic approach. I want to do this in an effective and honest way. I notice many become jaded and dissatisfied with their experiences in healthcare and doctors. How can I avoid the mistakes other doctors made before me?

      I really appreciate your guys' insights

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        LucH @ImTheRange
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        @ImTheRange

        Hi, don't try to convince.
        When being questioned (at school), say there are 2 points of view.
        The mainstream advises ...
        Be well structured. Main idea(s) + show you manage well with details but pay attention to your listener. if he wants you to develop.
        Afterwards, say there is an alternative for some practitioners (not nutritionists as the cursus could be criticized), which is not admitted by the health authorities.
        Don't try to explain why. No sectarism.
        You have to show you know the process behind the alternative.
        Take as example the saturated fats. Be positive first and don't reject the old concept. Adapt it.
        yes, omega-3 are anti-inflammatory. E.g. 2.5 - 3 g EPA from fish extract, protected from oxidation with vit E or rosmarinus; w3 dampens the excess of immune reaction. Usually from studies seldom longer than 12 weeks. You have to know which effects (PGE 1-3 ).
        The chain from ALA / LA to prostaglandins and their effects.
        Then you add: it has also an long-term effect on thyroid if taken on a regular base. Only in cure. Even if you think we shouldn't. here you show you manage both sides well. You must be brilliant, clear in the explanation. No hesitation.
        There you give the facts, not what has been said / thought. It should be taken into account, if there is no alternative in conventional medicine.
        See how the person reacts in private situation. Do not do the same in public audience. There is an official program! Not free to say what he / she really thinks.
        Afterwards the disadvantage of excess SFA. Mind excess fat, becoming C16:0. All excess are deleterious. But it also depends how you eat .and exercise, if you liver and thyroid manage well. We have to balance (magic word) SFA and MUFA. No problem with butter if coming from free-range cows. Do not begin with Coconut oil. He has probably already heard the story from tropical insulars. Know the main sources of fats.
        How do the liver manage C4-C12 / C14. etc.

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          dapose @ImTheRange
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          @ImTheRange
          Which doctors help people be healthy?
          How to be a doctor that figures out how to get people out of an environment that is designed to make them sick at every turn?

          When people go to a doctor they just want someone to tell them what’s wrong with them, and what they can do for themselves to fix it. My experience with every person I know and all my family members and all friends family members, I have never heard of anyone ever getting a clear answer from a doctor what is wrong with them or what they can do to help themselves. In fact medicine seems to be so broken that they are trying to just get AI to take it over so they can mask how inconsistent and “difficult,” diagnoses seems to be. (I have no sources for that but I know it’s true.)
          There is a cloud of information drifting around some educated people that all diseases are metabolic diseases. So fix broken metabolism is what a good doctor would do. Much easier said than done in a toxic environment. But that doesn’t stop good doctors from trying.
          Fortunately we can read Ray Peats work to help us all figure out how to be the best healthcare providers for ourselves and loved ones.
          I guess I’m suggesting that getting people out of the AMA is a step towards helping people get better. Unless they have a broken bone.

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            Peatful @ImTheRange
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            @ImTheRange said in How can I be a good doctor in modern medicine?:

            I am a 1st year medical school student (Osteopathic, DO) in the United States. As many of you know, the "mainstream" scientific/medical establishment's advice for health/disease prevention and standard of healthcare is pretty radical and promotes disease. For example, my nutrition course claims saturated fat, sugar, and cholesterol are to be avoided and are correlated with adverse cardiac outcomes.

            How can I be a good and honest doctor regarding this? I suspect I will end up giving dietary advice that follows a bio-energetic approach. I want to do this in an effective and honest way. I notice many become jaded and dissatisfied with their experiences in healthcare and doctors. How can I avoid the mistakes other doctors made before me?

            I really appreciate your guys' insights

            Go rouge

            Get your MD
            Then
            Be independent
            Don’t join a practice, a group or a hospital system

            Will you make as much money?
            No
            Will the insurance companies make you drown in paperwork or red tape?
            Yes
            Will you have job satisfaction?
            Yes
            Will you be effective?
            Yes
            Will your practice grow?
            Yes

            Stay based
            True to yourself
            Self confident
            Regardless of the horrors and brainwashing from the university and the medical industrial complex

            One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

            -DB

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              Corngold @ImTheRange
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              @ImTheRange

              I'm inspired by some physical therapists who mentioned they helped people move and heal when actual MDs wanted to give people drugs and keep them in the hospital. I don't know how bad actual MD practice is when it comes to anti-truth and pro-harm, but I would say the Hippocratic oath shows what medicine should be, and I read that it is not really emphasized anymore. Is it? PT, nutrition, etc seem to be aligned health disciplines that pay well and can be very effective if not more than what standard MDs actually do. Obviously surgeons/emergency crew, and university researchers seems to have good avenues.

              The MD gave me a mild painkiller but the PT ensured I didn't have to keep taking it. I don't hate MDs or mistrust them entirely but every doctor is totally different. The system seems very libertarian - could be very hands off or very hands on depending on what they believe.

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                Corngold @dapose
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                @dapose said in How can I be a good doctor in modern medicine?:

                My experience with every person I know and all my family members and all friends family members, I have never heard of anyone ever getting a clear answer from a doctor what is wrong with them or what they can do to help themselves. In fact medicine seems to be so broken that they are trying to just get AI to take it over so they can mask how inconsistent and “difficult,” diagnoses seems to be.

                Agree. And I despise the conflict shock (see GNM) that doctors are giving people. When a doctor finds cancer and gives a life expectancy, that should be criminal. Somebody with cancer is living just fine, with some pains, until the doctor basically sends them into a panic attack. Very sick yet it "seems right," because of our "anti-cancer" "war on disease" perspective.

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