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      risingfire @anonymous1
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      @anonymous1 I'm about to take primo e. Should have similar effects to dht e

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        jamezb46 @anonymous1
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        People in the know have known about it for a while. There are reviews of people saying it’s amazing, as good as any AAS. However, it’s very hard if not impossible to source.

        There are pharma esters of DHT such as Pesomax and Anaboleen depot, but I don’t know where to find them.

        With that said, I do feel as if, should someone open up a supply chain of the stuff, it could explode. When you think about it it’s not even that hard to do. Just get about 500 grams of the raw stuff from china, synthesize the ester, and get the word out.

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          wester130 @risingfire
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          @risingfire
          what does Metenolone do?

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          • Crypt KeeperC
            Crypt Keeper
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            Want the effects of DHT-e? Simply take plain DHT 4-5x a day.

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              jamezb46 @Crypt Keeper
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              @Crypt-Keeper

              DHT is not very orally bioavailable. I guess you could dissolve it in tocopherols or DMSO but the former can be difficult. It's not very soluble in tocopherols. A few forum members have had difficulties with dissolving it in vitamin E.

              Maybe sublingual in DMSO is the best bet.

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                alfredoolivas @jamezb46
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                @jamezb46 The issue isn't that DHT is insoluble in tocopherol, but rather that people are either using the wrong solvent or brewing it incorrectly. I’ve successfully dissolved DHEA, progesterone, and exemestane at 300 mg/ml in a mixed tocopherol solution at a 30% concentration, multiple times, with ease. There was no undissolved particles when I looked through the glass, and shining a light through it exposed no further undissolved particles.

                Tocopherol is likely the most effective solvent for dissolving unesterified steroids. However, it is also the most challenging to use. First, you need to determine the exact amount of tocopherol in milligrams and oil and use an appropriate amount of steroid. Second, it requires significant heating beforehand to properly mix the steroids. Additionally, you’ll need to reheat it during subsequent steps to ensure everything dissolves thoroughly.

                Simply throwing a random amount of DHT powder in a "tocopherol" oil, which a lot of the time has a low amount of vitamin E inside it, and throwing it in the microwave until it gets hot, won't work.

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                  alfredoolivas @jamezb46
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                  @jamezb46 Just spoke to a friend that dissolved 10% DHT in a solution that was 51% tocopherol 49% olive oil( Vitamin E "Oil" from NOW. has 510mg of alpha-tocopherol per 1ml).

                  I might add since he was able to dissolve 100mg in per 510mg of alpha tocopherol, it is more like a 20% solution excluding the olive oil (which DHT is not soluble in)

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                      BeamsOfEnergy @beriberi
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                      @dht how much dht is that per drop?

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                        jamezb46 @BeamsOfEnergy
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                        @BeamsOfEnergy From my experience, you need to weigh the drop on a milligram scale while knowing the mass stoichiometry of the solution and calculate like that. Using approximate volume of a drop is not accurate.

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                          alfredoolivas @jamezb46
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                          @jamezb46 Most milligram scales aren't accurate when measuring single-digit milligram weights; and even then, the size of drops varies, therefore, a mean has to be taken to calculate the average size of a drop.

                          And if you use the mean value to say how much a drop is then it is automatically an approximate figure. So, unfortunately, using an approximate figure is the only way to guess how much you are taking based off of drops.

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                            jamezb46 @alfredoolivas
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                            @alfredoolivas

                            Yes that’s true, but it can be an average of averages.

                            For example: trial 1 is the average weight of 10 drops,

                            Trial 2 is the average weight of 10 new drops,

                            etc. then the final estimate for average is the average of each n trials.

                            Although this obviously isn’t perfect, it’s the best we can do without lab equipment

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                                  A Former User @beriberi
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                                  @dht there are studies showing that different esters of the same base compound behave (sometimes significantly) differently. Many anecdotal reports confirming this too. E.g.Test Undeconate doesn't lead to side effects like Test cyp, deca is more anabolic than NPP, etc. For the deca vs. npp comparison there is actual data showing that even when blood levels are matched via dosing schedules (giving NPP more frequently in smaller doses to match the stable blood levels of deca), that deca still gives more nitrogen retention.

                                  you saying DHT-e is more androgenic than base DHT goes against the anecdotal notions, tho. I'd assume it'd be more anabolic and less androgenic to use dht-e until reading your explanation. yet we are talking about dht which is the androgenic hormone so what your'e saying does make sense.

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                                      A Former User @beriberi
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                                      @dht are you the guy from twitter who posts his physique and workout clips and about dht?

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                                          alfredoolivas @beriberi
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                                          @dht DHT is pure hype when it comes to cosmetic purposes. If DHT had any cosmetic benefit, then at least one of the thousands of studies performed on DHT, would of shown it. But I have yet to see a single study showing any cosmetic benefit of DHT. I would stop showing interest in it, it's not a golden bullet, or a well-kept secret, but rather a hype train.
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                                          The guy behind the hype is also on testosterone as well.

                                          https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/162/6/bqab045/6155679

                                          "Testosterone Reduces Body Fat in Male Mice by Stimulation of Physical Activity Via Extrahypothalamic ERα Signaling...Testosterone but not dihydrotestosterone decreases fat mass in obese hypogonadal male mice

                                          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16741268/

                                          "DHT treatment resulted in obesity, associated with reduced energy expenditure and fat oxidation. "

                                          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1344622399800194

                                          "In respiratory parameters, expired CO2 gas decreased significantly in the hormone-treated rats"

                                          If you are going to reply with some anecdotal something, please don't. Not trying to be rude, but we should skip the talk and share studies instead, in order to hopefully dismiss these studies showing DHT having negative cosmetic effects, as I want DHT to have cosmetic purposes as much as the next person.

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                                            Crypt Keeper @alfredoolivas
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                                            @alfredoolivas And from that study:

                                            In conclusion, our work demonstrates that the fat-burning action of T is dependent on aromatization into estrogens and is at least partially mediated by the stimulation of physical activity via extrahypothalamic ERα signaling.

                                            That definitely won't go over well with some in this community that insist that estrogen is the enemy and DHT is good because it supposedly crashes it.

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