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    Insr
    last edited by Insr Feb 25, 2025, 4:34 AM Feb 25, 2025, 3:24 AM

    PG Wodehouse
    James Herriot
    Swallows and Amazons
    The Horatio Hornblower books (a little bit annoyingly modern and introspective at times but good otherwise)
    CS Lewis - Narnia, the Space Trilogy, and a bunch of philosophy/religion ones (the Screwtape Letters and Mere Christianity are well known. The Discarded Image is very cool)
    The Lord of the Rings, also read Tolkein's other works if you like (On Fairy Stories is good stuff)
    E. Nesbit
    Louis L'Amour (also a little annoyingly cynical and modern here and there but it's good on the whole)
    Robert Louis Stevenson
    Showell Styles
    The Virginian
    Paddington (the original books)
    Winnie the Pooh (the original, not the Disney version)
    The Hardy Boys (why not? don't get the modern versions, go for the 50's ones)
    The Secret Garden (slightly strange but whatever)
    Little Lord Fauntleroy
    The Incredible Journey
    The "Little House on the Prairie" books
    Stuart Little
    Penrod, by Booth Tarkington (make sure to get the original as it has probably been censored recently) - and there's at least one sequel too.
    The John Carter of Mars books by Edgar Rice Burroughs for strange sci-fi pulp fiction from the early 20th century
    Holling Clancy Holling's beautiful and interesting books: Paddle to the Sea, Minn of the Mississippi, Pagoo, Tree in the Trail, Seabird, The Book of Cowboys, The Book of Indians.
    "The War in the Air: The Royal Air Force in World War II" - this is a great anthology containing many accounts of WW2 action by the men involved, men who weren't lame like today! You could find lots of other books from the snippets quoted in here.
    Why not read some old stuff for real power? Arthurian Romances by Chretien de Troyes, Gawain and the Green Knight (Tolkein's translation of it is good), Beowulf, The Iliad, The Odyssey, The Aeneid. Be sure to get good translations, the modern ones can be absolutely terrible.
    And if you like GK Chesterton, he wrote an enormous amount - there's lots more! (most of which I have not read) You may also like Hilaire Belloc, his friend

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      jamezb46 @A Former User
      last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 3:39 AM

      @sushi_is_cringe

      If you want to understand Western philosophy

      The World as Will and Representation - Schopenhauer (written when he was about 26)

      In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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        A Former User @Insr
        last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 4:16 AM

        @Insr thx much appreciated . I think I have hardy boys books . that's a nice list.

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          A Former User @jamezb46
          last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 4:17 AM

          @jamezb46 wasn't schaupenhoer an incel tho?

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            Corngold @A Former User
            last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 4:26 AM

            @sushi_is_cringe said in peaty books:

            but fiction books that are high energy im looking for

            I think "high energy fiction books" is an oxymoron. What do you mean by high energy?
            here is some fiction that energized my mind or body:

            Bolaño
            Borges
            John K. Toole
            Cervantes
            Cortazar
            Gaddis
            Guyotat
            Lautremont
            Strindberg
            Huysmans
            Lovecraft
            Poe
            Philip K Dick
            Celine
            D'Annunzio
            Pessoa
            Kafka

            some poets:

            James Wright
            Pound
            Eliot
            Yeats
            Rilke
            Pavese
            Nerval
            Huidobro
            Trakl
            Jorge Tellier
            Novalis
            Blake
            Dante
            Bertran de Born
            Leopardi

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              A Former User @Corngold
              last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 5:43 AM

              @Corngold I simply mean stuff not written by/for cucks

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                A Former User @A Former User
                last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 2:56 PM

                @sushi_is_cringe I don't know what a chad is but Underworld by Don Delillio is incredible. White Noise is great too.

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                  Corngold @Corngold
                  last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 4:42 PM

                  @Corngold
                  define cuck sushi.
                  if you want to go that route all literature is written by "cucks." Bolaño writes about this in a funny way. His books are hilarious but also very disturbing. Read Hemingway, he was a real manly man. Deep sea fishing, bull-fighting, drinking and dressing in drag. Very old school military type of writer. Psychological wreck. Read Faulkner. But most of all if you think most writers are cucks you should probably stop reading and do something real.

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                    Corngold @A Former User
                    last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 4:45 PM

                    @sushi_is_cringe
                    DeLillo is super cucked. Read End Zone.
                    Blatantly homoerotic. White Noise is also complete pulp. He regurgitates the same propaganda he appears to criticize. Very uh... Frankfurt School / Marcuse / Baudrillard-esque semitic fakery and kitsch.

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                      Corngold @A Former User
                      last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 4:47 PM

                      @sushi_is_cringe
                      Schopenhauer was an incel and essentially a neoliberal xenophile.

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                        Luke
                        last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 5:21 PM

                        I don't know. Maybe: Ray Peat - Generative Energy?

                        I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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                          Corngold @Luke
                          last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 5:28 PM

                          @Luke
                          He wants fiction. Is Peat fiction?
                          I think he should read Henry Miller 😁

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                            Milk Destroyer
                            last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 7:22 PM

                            I have these 3 on my list after hearing Ray talk about them in regards to things that sounded interesting:

                            https://archive.org/details/the-new-paradigm-bockris/ Ray mentioned this book when talking about "evidence of an afterlife".

                            https://archive.org/details/synchronicitybri00peat Stories about Synchronocity.

                            https://archive.org/details/themurderofchrist/ Ray said this book gives example of communism's relation to early Christian ideas.

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                              A Former User @Corngold
                              last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 10:28 PM

                              @Corngold basically low energy doomer is all i can think of to describe cuckishness

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                                jamezb46 @A Former User
                                last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 11:40 PM

                                @sushi_is_cringe

                                I don’t think he was an “incel”

                                He was highly intelligent, and is actually famous for having a high sex drive that influenced his philosophy. He probably had extramarital sex, though.

                                In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                                  jamezb46 @Corngold
                                  last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 11:42 PM

                                  @Corngold

                                  Have you read Schopenhauer? Have you read his On the four-fold root of sufficient reason? Have you read his critique of Kant? Or are you just parroting what others who don’t actually read the source material say about it?

                                  In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                                    Corngold @jamezb46
                                    last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 11:54 PM

                                    @jamezb46

                                    You can read the source all you want. Just like in art, nothing in philosophy is original. Was he just parroting the four-fold path of Buddhism? Maybe Jung has more to say on this. Philosophy is as an art and an activity. Besides the pre-Socratics, Wittgenstein is really the only one who "awakened" anything of consequence for me. A lot of modern philosophers (post-Renaissance) are basically playing the role of sociologists or psychologists. Understanding man in society, or, the mind in man. Yes, it's both but none of this is new.

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                                      Corngold @A Former User
                                      last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 11:58 PM

                                      @sushi_is_cringe said in peaty books:

                                      basically low energy doomer is all i can think of to describe cuckishness

                                      I don't know Sushi, sitting down and writing is basically hermitic - it's recoiling from life. Vitality entering the pen instead of the phallus, right? The "vitalist" or high energy non-doomer "writer" is one who does not write.
                                      But in all honesty you should consider reading fiction from any of the fiction authors I mentioned. I don't read fiction very much anymore - I think we will agree that Peat has shown how much fiction exists within "non-fiction," science, and academic work.

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                                        A Former User @Corngold
                                        last edited by Feb 26, 2025, 3:43 AM

                                        @Corngold ok thanks

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                                          A Former User @jamezb46
                                          last edited by Feb 26, 2025, 3:50 AM

                                          @jamezb46 ok thanks

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