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jamezb46

@sushi_is_cringe

If you want to understand Western philosophy

The World as Will and Representation - Schopenhauer (written when he was about 26)

@Insr thx much appreciated . I think I have hardy boys books . that's a nice list.

@jamezb46 wasn't schaupenhoer an incel tho?

Corngold

@sushi_is_cringe said in peaty books:

but fiction books that are high energy im looking for

I think "high energy fiction books" is an oxymoron. What do you mean by high energy?
here is some fiction that energized my mind or body:

Bolaño
Borges
John K. Toole
Cervantes
Cortazar
Gaddis
Guyotat
Lautremont
Strindberg
Huysmans
Lovecraft
Poe
Philip K Dick
Celine
D'Annunzio
Pessoa
Kafka

some poets:

James Wright
Pound
Eliot
Yeats
Rilke
Pavese
Nerval
Huidobro
Trakl
Jorge Tellier
Novalis
Blake
Dante
Bertran de Born
Leopardi

@Corngold I simply mean stuff not written by/for cucks

@sushi_is_cringe I don't know what a chad is but Underworld by Don Delillio is incredible. White Noise is great too.

Corngold

@Corngold
define cuck sushi.
if you want to go that route all literature is written by "cucks." Bolaño writes about this in a funny way. His books are hilarious but also very disturbing. Read Hemingway, he was a real manly man. Deep sea fishing, bull-fighting, drinking and dressing in drag. Very old school military type of writer. Psychological wreck. Read Faulkner. But most of all if you think most writers are cucks you should probably stop reading and do something real.

Corngold

@sushi_is_cringe
DeLillo is super cucked. Read End Zone.
Blatantly homoerotic. White Noise is also complete pulp. He regurgitates the same propaganda he appears to criticize. Very uh... Frankfurt School / Marcuse / Baudrillard-esque semitic fakery and kitsch.

Corngold

@sushi_is_cringe
Schopenhauer was an incel and essentially a neoliberal xenophile.

Luke

I don't know. Maybe: Ray Peat - Generative Energy?

Corngold

@Luke
He wants fiction. Is Peat fiction?
I think he should read Henry Miller

Milk Destroyer

I have these 3 on my list after hearing Ray talk about them in regards to things that sounded interesting:

https://archive.org/details/the-new-paradigm-bockris/ Ray mentioned this book when talking about "evidence of an afterlife".

https://archive.org/details/synchronicitybri00peat Stories about Synchronocity.

https://archive.org/details/themurderofchrist/ Ray said this book gives example of communism's relation to early Christian ideas.

@Corngold basically low energy doomer is all i can think of to describe cuckishness

jamezb46

@sushi_is_cringe

I don’t think he was an “incel”

He was highly intelligent, and is actually famous for having a high sex drive that influenced his philosophy. He probably had extramarital sex, though.

jamezb46

@Corngold

Have you read Schopenhauer? Have you read his On the four-fold root of sufficient reason? Have you read his critique of Kant? Or are you just parroting what others who don’t actually read the source material say about it?

Corngold

@jamezb46

You can read the source all you want. Just like in art, nothing in philosophy is original. Was he just parroting the four-fold path of Buddhism? Maybe Jung has more to say on this. Philosophy is as an art and an activity. Besides the pre-Socratics, Wittgenstein is really the only one who "awakened" anything of consequence for me. A lot of modern philosophers (post-Renaissance) are basically playing the role of sociologists or psychologists. Understanding man in society, or, the mind in man. Yes, it's both but none of this is new.

Corngold

@sushi_is_cringe said in peaty books:

basically low energy doomer is all i can think of to describe cuckishness

I don't know Sushi, sitting down and writing is basically hermitic - it's recoiling from life. Vitality entering the pen instead of the phallus, right? The "vitalist" or high energy non-doomer "writer" is one who does not write.
But in all honesty you should consider reading fiction from any of the fiction authors I mentioned. I don't read fiction very much anymore - I think we will agree that Peat has shown how much fiction exists within "non-fiction," science, and academic work.

@Corngold ok thanks

@jamezb46 ok thanks

jamezb46

@Corngold

Respectfully, my friend, On the Fourfold Roof of the Principle of Sufficient Reason has nothing to do with Buddhism. It’s a thorough analysis of causation and it has implications for free will, mathematics, physics, and logic. It’s metaphysics.

Sure, you could claim that it’s not “original”, but so what? That doesn’t mean it’s not valuable. Is it “original” to build a house from pre-existing materials, or is that a worthless endeavor? Besides all our perception is from nature and so is again not “original”. So what’s the point in insisting on “originality”. Do you mean to suggest he wasn’t an original thinker in the common sense? He most certainly was.