psychedelics & bioenergetics discussion

[keshin]

Here is way Ray says about psychedelics:

BPC: Do you think there is a role for psychedelics/entheogens or "expanding consciousness", introspection, learning, etc? In particular, LSD, psilocybin, cannabis, and other ones that have a proven track record of overall safety.

Ray: Things in the LSD and antiserotonin category, caffeine, some of the mushroom chemicals, possibly mescaline.

and the following about LSD:

The small doses, like coffee, help to optimize normal processes. Giant doses of either will deplete energy stores. Sugar, salt, milk, gelatin, juice, etc., help to restore the reserves.

Things that protect against “reductive stress” (an excess of metabolic electrons) protect the sensitivities of cells that make coherent integrated function possible. Szent-Gyorgyi talked about an intracellular integration made possible by maintaining a partially oxidized state of proteins, and I’m thinking about intercellular communication of this electronic state. Stress shifts metabolism away from this condition. Once the state exists, it tends to be stable by itself, without drugs, in the absence of stress.

If I were in a place where it's not illegal, I think I would want to occasionally use 10 mcg quantities. I think it's one of the things that can help to maintain the proper electronic resonance of the organism.

[long-term effects] It acts as a learning ce, and can affect your general attitudes; if the amount is excessive, causing depletion of brain glycogen, I think it can lead to prolonged defensive attitudes, probably with a rebound of serotonin.

[mechanism of LSD] Things that protect against “reductive stress” (an excess of metabolic electrons) protect the sensitivities of cells that make coherent integrated function possible. Szent-Gyorgyi talked about an intracellular integration made possible by maintaining a partially oxidized state of proteins, and I’m thinking about intercellular communication of this electronic state. Stress shifts metabolism away from this condition. Once the state exists, it tends to be stable by itself, without drugs, in the absence of stress.

From a bionergetic perspective, psychedelics (LSD, and in fact MDMA has a much stronger effect) purge the body of serotonin. In deeper Peat metaphysics we can talk about the resonance effects of psychedelics. But we also must be careful of the many dangers. Owen Broadcast on twitter has deep documentation about how psychedelics are portals to demonic possession. It is well known that the effects of LSD are governed by the planet Saturn. Landshark has the following to say about DMT:

It is well known that psychedelics will increase personality trait "openness". Enough dosage of any psychedelic will gigafry your brain and make you lose your mind.

I personally believe occasional LSD and or MDMA with lots of saturated fats, and sugar, with some appropriate neuroprotectants α-lipoic acid, CoQ10, magnesium will have a powerful effect.

[jhp]

@keshin Research Jolyon West. Psychs are not your friend and may make you more "open" but not in any remotely beneficial way.

[BeanSprouts]

I don't know about LSD, but psilocybin has nothing but research showing it's beneficial for all sorts of mental problems, from depression to learned helplessness and even things considered not curable, like alcoholism. There are no long-term effects, as the worst that can happen is a bad trip that lasts an hour or two. John Hopkins Microdosing helps many people become more "creative" and positive in their interpersonal relationships. John Hopkins is on the cutting edge of psychedelic research, despite resistance from the American government, and has basically declared that therapy with psychedelics applied does 100x more than just regular talk therapy since it breaks down the mental blocks you've created to protect yourself from a sick society. Furthermore, even hiring a therapist isn't necessary because if you just lie down and pay attention, it works as self-therapy, which is a big breakthrough because now there's no longer this class division in access to therapy.

So, who opposes it? Pharmaceutical companies don't like it because they can't profit from mushrooms you can grow in a closet. Cuckservatives don't like it because the corporations aren't telling them it's okay yet and then they'll invent some evangelical crap to make up why they don't take it, like they did with weed until the government told them it was okay. Alt-rightoids don't like it because they heard left-wingers say it's beneficial, which it factually can be, so in their mindless contrarianism and victimhood they make up stories about it being bad, like in the pic above along with the Christlarping. I'm sorry, but if your primary argument against all the evidence is that some Christlarper on twitter says it possesses you with the spooky demons, just lol. That's not a respectable take, it's just part of this alternative reality you created along with turbo-racism and flat-earth.

[CurmudgeonApple]

Not sure what Ray is on about there. LSD is not anti-serotonin at all. It's actually the complete opposite.i remember he made the same claim about Psilocybin and he was wrong about that too. LSD and Psilocybin's benefits in association with learnt helplessness seem to be related to improved receptor function for the brain as a whole, not repressing one single neurochemical

[Sugar]

While LSD is intense, saying it's a portal to demons is religious nonsense, and of course that guy Owen, who ironically enough made the cover art for Bronze Age Mindset, has an entite page dedicated to Christianity
I'd write his experience off as having a bad trip.
Lots of people on X/Twitter like to sensationalize different concepts like demons and things being demonic. While some people might genuinely feel that certain experienced/drugs are demonic, it seems easy to just make stuff up and exaggerate for engagement. Make something sound more sinister and bigger than it actually is.

Now if we're talking about facing our own demons, anxiety, fears, and of course our gut health, that's much more valid. People undermine the importance of gut health with things such as psilocybin mushrooms or LSD, especially LSD as its a much longer and more intense experience. LSD makes you understand the importance of your environment, your energy, other people's energy, etc. It can put your problems and what you've been neglecting doing in your life to the forefront. I'd say the normie LSD formula is think about bad thing, let that bad thing effect your mood, freak out about said thing, and have a bad trip. Of course there's bigger problems, lots of fear inducing propaganda, and general uncertainty in this world, but as long as you understand you must keep going and have a positive friend who knows how to keep you in a positive mood and mindset, you can put yourself back in the positive happy trip spot.

A big thing for me was seeing how beautiful nature was and how dysfunctional a lot of humans are and human creations, LSD activates synaesthesia where you can feel what you see, and vice versa. I'd research more into synaesthesia honestly. Again, it all goes back to your environment, your mindset, way of thinking, your trauma, etc.