B vitamins are dangerous?
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I’ve been having health issues for quite some time now. So I’ve messed around with various supplements, especially the B vitamins. When taken orally, they didn’t really do much for me. Occasionally it probably fixed a deficiency.
However, when I’ve tried using them topically I really felt the effects. It actually made me feel good the first time. But it’s also made me feel bad many times, it’s caused me to become unstable and I’ve ended up feeling compromised. When I’m awake, I’m able to resist it. But when I try to rest, I start to feel the effects. I’ve woken up with nerve pain or my heart racing or my head felt poisoned.
Is it inappropriately stimulating my metabolic rate? I do remember the moments that I felt good (even if momentarily) and I just want to be in that state. But it’s caused me a lot of trouble, so I don’t know. Does anyone else here know what I’m talking about? I’m not a healthy individual to begin with, I have elevated heavy metals (I suppose that means low glutathione status) and it might change things. For example, vitamin K has caused me to destabilize. Same with progesterone. Caffeine makes me feel worse. It seems like anything peaty that is pro-oxidation is not good
Anyways, I wish there was a more efficient (safer) way to go about this…
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What does your body composition and weight look like and what is your BMI? How long have you been depleting PUFA? How are your BMs? Do you eat organ meats?
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I’m on the skinnier side… I don’t usually eat pufas but that’s not the point. Diet doesn’t do anything for me. This has been like one of the only things that have given me a positive effect but it’s too unpredictable and therefore dangerous…
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Right now I have some kind of neuropathy issue and my wrist is a bit uncomfortable because of this. I was having other strange symptoms before as well. Sometimes I simply can’t rest
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It sounds like it's causing low blood sugar. Have you tried eating more carbs alongside it?
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@winters2 said in B vitamins are dangerous?:
now I have some kind of neuropathy issue and my wrist is a bit uncomfortable because of this.
How much B6 did you take and what kind (PNP or PLP)?
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about 50mg pyridoxine (oral) not at once and it did seem to help some toxic feeling in my head
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I have this on my toes but I’m not sure exactly what it means
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@winters2
Looks like histaminose. Mind HD B1. Not required.
I"d stop all suppléments for one week.
Get informed on DAO enzyme and how to manage histamine. -
What did you mean about the B1? I thought you wanted no supplements
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@winters2 said in B vitamins are dangerous?:
What did you mean about the B1? I thought you wanted no supplements
2 situations:
- someone suffers from excess histamine (histaminose): A high level thiamine (HD B1) is counterproductive. HD B1 is all what is not required.
Note there are interactions between several members of the group B complex. - As we can be sure of the source of the problem, we'd better stop all supplements and let homeostasis takes place.
After 3-4 days, I'd take one supplement if, and only if, I've recovered from the immune reaction. First, I'd take magnesium. Not other one before 2 days (48H) separation.
If you suffer from histaminose, you won't get rid of the problem in one week.
I can give a link if you want to go deeper in the research about histamine.
- someone suffers from excess histamine (histaminose): A high level thiamine (HD B1) is counterproductive. HD B1 is all what is not required.
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Okay, I’m not taking B1 cause it made me feel worse. I suppose I will eventually have to take a bit of the others though, orally. Assuming that I’m missing a B vitamin, since my appetite has gotten worse. I can read the link
I don’t know if it’s a mineral deficiency…
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I’m getting cold and kind of trembling… my heart is racing. I’m not stable yet
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@winters2 said in B vitamins are dangerous?:
I can read the link
See this post first ..
https://bioenergetic.forum/post/39136 -
Could I possibly be deficient in Lipoic Acid?
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@winters2 said in B vitamins are dangerous?:
Could I possibly be deficient in Lipoic Acid?
Lipoic acid synthetase deficiency is a rare condition. It you had a "gene defect", you would have noticed it a long time ago.
So, I don't think you lack ALA. but ALA is useful in Hg chelation.
If you are aged over 50 - 60 and have old lead / mercury fillings, you could be deficient in methyl groups too. Nothing can function well if you eats a lot nuts (phytates) and don't vary your carb sources (sweet potato, potato in shirt) and eat a lot carrot salad ...
Anything with level 3 should be moderated (high level). Once OK, not as usual snack.
Before searching for deficiency, I 'd take first into account what prevents homeostasis to function.
First remove before adding. Too much of a good thing is bad. -
I’m metabolically compromised… ALA is a co-factor for sugar metabolism. It might be conditionally essential. Remember, I used B vitamins as stimulant drugs and I need to balance it out
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@winters2 said in B vitamins are dangerous?:
I’ve been having health issues for quite some time now. So I’ve messed around with various supplements, especially the B vitamins. When taken orally,
You said you've already done this.
I understand what you say (metabolically compromised) but I don't agree with the way you want to proceed.
We don't give beef liver to a weak person (metabolically deficient). Too strong. Just to illustrate the situation. Not the right moment.
So, if you don't agree with my perception, I can admit it since you're better placed than me.
I loose my energy here. So I stop trying to convince you to stay away from supplements for a time, until the balance return in a soft mode, not overburdened.
Your liver can't manage what you bring. And moreover if there are deficiencies in getting rid of toxins, you have first to gain energy back before handling as you want to do it. -
I’m not really in a sugar fueled state (hypoglycemia) and I’m trying to sleep but my heart races and I get hives. I can’t feel good no matter what. Not sure what I threw off
