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      winters2 @LucH
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      @LucH

      about 50mg pyridoxine (oral) not at once and it did seem to help some toxic feeling in my head

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        winters2
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        I have this on my toes but I’m not sure exactly what it means

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          LucH @winters2
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          @winters2
          Looks like histaminose. Mind HD B1. Not required.
          I"d stop all suppléments for one week.
          Get informed on DAO enzyme and how to manage histamine.

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            winters2 @LucH
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            @LucH

            What did you mean about the B1? I thought you wanted no supplements

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              LucH @winters2
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              @winters2 said in B vitamins are dangerous?:

              @LucH

              What did you mean about the B1? I thought you wanted no supplements

              2 situations:

              1. someone suffers from excess histamine (histaminose): A high level thiamine (HD B1) is counterproductive. HD B1 is all what is not required.
                Note there are interactions between several members of the group B complex.
              2. As we can be sure of the source of the problem, we'd better stop all supplements and let homeostasis takes place.
                After 3-4 days, I'd take one supplement if, and only if, I've recovered from the immune reaction. First, I'd take magnesium. Not other one before 2 days (48H) separation.
                If you suffer from histaminose, you won't get rid of the problem in one week.
                I can give a link if you want to go deeper in the research about histamine.
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                winters2 @LucH
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                @LucH

                Okay, I’m not taking B1 cause it made me feel worse. I suppose I will eventually have to take a bit of the others though, orally. Assuming that I’m missing a B vitamin, since my appetite has gotten worse. I can read the link

                I don’t know if it’s a mineral deficiency…

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                  winters2
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                  I’m getting cold and kind of trembling… my heart is racing. I’m not stable yet

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                    LucH @winters2
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                    @winters2 said in B vitamins are dangerous?:

                    I can read the link

                    See this post first ..
                    https://bioenergetic.forum/post/39136

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                      winters2
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                      Could I possibly be deficient in Lipoic Acid?

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                        LucH @winters2
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                        @winters2 said in B vitamins are dangerous?:

                        Could I possibly be deficient in Lipoic Acid?

                        Lipoic acid synthetase deficiency is a rare condition. It you had a "gene defect", you would have noticed it a long time ago.
                        So, I don't think you lack ALA. but ALA is useful in Hg chelation.
                        If you are aged over 50 - 60 and have old lead / mercury fillings, you could be deficient in methyl groups too. Nothing can function well if you eats a lot nuts (phytates) and don't vary your carb sources (sweet potato, potato in shirt) and eat a lot carrot salad ...
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                        Anything with level 3 should be moderated (high level). Once OK, not as usual snack.
                        Before searching for deficiency, I 'd take first into account what prevents homeostasis to function.
                        First remove before adding. Too much of a good thing is bad.

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                          winters2 @LucH
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                          @LucH

                          I’m metabolically compromised… ALA is a co-factor for sugar metabolism. It might be conditionally essential. Remember, I used B vitamins as stimulant drugs and I need to balance it out

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                            LucH @winters2
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                            @winters2 said in B vitamins are dangerous?:

                            I’ve been having health issues for quite some time now. So I’ve messed around with various supplements, especially the B vitamins. When taken orally,

                            You said you've already done this.

                            I understand what you say (metabolically compromised) but I don't agree with the way you want to proceed.
                            We don't give beef liver to a weak person (metabolically deficient). Too strong. Just to illustrate the situation. Not the right moment.
                            So, if you don't agree with my perception, I can admit it since you're better placed than me.
                            I loose my energy here. So I stop trying to convince you to stay away from supplements for a time, until the balance return in a soft mode, not overburdened.
                            Your liver can't manage what you bring. And moreover if there are deficiencies in getting rid of toxins, you have first to gain energy back before handling as you want to do it.

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                              winters2
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                              I’m not really in a sugar fueled state (hypoglycemia) and I’m trying to sleep but my heart races and I get hives. I can’t feel good no matter what. Not sure what I threw off

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