is it ok to call fat people fat?
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generally, is it bad or good to remind fat people and even unhealthy low energy people they are fat as shit / low energy and thus really have no major standing to be condescending and rude?
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@eduardo-crispino
If we consider obesity to be a disease, and the very obese to be very sickly, one has to become very sick in one way or another to know personally how hard it is to always be sick, and to personally experience the indifference of some healthy relative or acquaintance, and to feel misunderstood.
Most obese people don't desire to be obese, but to get out of that obese/fat/overweight hellhole seems like an impossibility. The only consolationis in knowing he is not alone in a population that is generally subject to the same pop culture influences that make them that sick. That is generally a USA American experience.
To change requires a general overhaul of the USA pop culture. From how food is grown and harvested to how nutrition is taught and to how nutritional lifestyles are practiced as part of the culture of knowing how to think. So everything one does that is rightly directed comes naturally and effortlessly.
That seemed like a pipe dream a year ago. But there is hope now, as people begin to realize how poorly they have been programmed and conditioned to fail by conspiratorial forces above them.
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Call them fat and enjoy doing so.
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@eduardo-crispino said in is it ok to call fat people fat?:
is it bad or good to remind fat people and even unhealthy low energy people they are fat as shit / low energy
Are you walking up to them in person? How is this even happening?
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@herenow I rub my thin stomach and say: "I need to lose weight".
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in is it ok to call fat people fat?:
@herenow I rub my thin stomach and say: "I need to lose weight".
That's almost polite. The poster sounds like he's shouting in faces or something
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@yerrag This is a considerate response that I think a lot of people need to read. I’ve always been a bit fat phobic and I feel bad about it. I often try to remind myself they most likely have some trauma or disease that causes them to be fat. Some empathy goes a long way.
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Thank you for your encouraging and supportive reply!
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@eduardo-crispino
Nah. At best you can get subliminal talking about low fat milk, fruit, and cooking. That's positive.
But it's frustrating because the whole "fat acceptance" thing is coming at a time when almost 50% of people (likely more) are overweight and many obese. This leads to I think worsening of the vice which is really big people being shameless about eating fast food or crap on the regular and being lazy. It's an awful acceptance - indulgence cycle.
I wouldn't be happy if a 10% body fat person was calling me fat. I'm not going to a gym to look more buff so people gawk at me. I don't have the time or interest. I do have an interest in keeping fat down, getting good nutrition, and the other Peaty ideas.
Again... I don't think many people wanted to get so big. I think they're in a situation, and then they accept it, and then it gets worse unless they make radical changes that take lots of time and work. So again it's average to not want change bad enough and only some outliers make radical changes. Many don't know how to make positive changes.
So again, how to be positive? Be subliminal about what helped you.
It's very difficult... people are out here losing weight on "one meal a day" stressing themselves out; or on keto, doing the same, or are doing carb restriction, or are looking at CICO, or are walking more while obese.
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@eduardo-crispino said in is it ok to call fat people fat?:
generally, is it bad or good to remind fat people and even unhealthy low energy people they are fat as shit / low energy and thus really have no major standing to be condescending and rude?
You don’t need to remind them, Eduardo. The mirror and society remind them every day and it’s likely that their behavior is in large part a reflection of it. As the saying goes, hurt people hurt. This, of course, is no excuse for them to treat others poorly but to break the pattern of condescension and rudeness, you would probably be more successful if you don’t attempt to school them on their poor behavior with the same poor behavior. Instead, maybe be an example of how to treat people with respect? If they refuse to show you respect in return, you can always disengage. Cool, calm, collected and the ability to walk away is powerful, IME. You may even inspire at least one of them to get healthy by being an example of what it truly means to be healthy. Healthy people don’t want to bring others down, but lift them up. Joy loves company just as much as misery does.
