I have proof of dozens of guys regrowing from "it's over" levels of bald with high pufa diets and pro-nitric oxide things
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@RawGoatMilk88 said in I have proof of dozens of guys regrowing from "it's over" levels of bald with high pufa diets and pro-nitric oxide things:
Don’t be mad dat we strong bois who can bully you
See but this is what I mean, you are mentally ill and clearly have some odd disordered fantasies. The issue is that you have no regard for what a healthy state of mind would be like. For me it means rarely thinking about 'big muscles' and 'strong bois bullying weak guys'. That feels very foreign to me.
Thanks to reading and listening to Ray's ideas I've improved my physique a lot, but I rarely think about it, and never would it occur to me to go into a gym to do unhealthy stressful eccentric exercise to 'be bigger'. I wouldn't say this to a person who isn't pretending to care about health and is aware of Ray's ideas - or pretends to be - but this means you have a deeply rooted mental illness.
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I think the deeply rooted mental illness is taking yourself so seriously that you can’t detect an obvious joke. Were you vaccinated as a child?
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@antiracistracist send this to kevin mann
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Castrated men don't go bald. You know what you gotta do now OP...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_hair_lossI was raised on a high pufa standard healthy diet (chicken for protein/low saturated fat/complex carbs/veggies). I was suffering immense hairloss into my twenties and suffer MPB. Where's my success story, op??
This has been explained ad nauseum by Peat and Danny, so I don't blame Danny blocking you. I'll answer once then block you myself for your anti-curiosity, anti-masculine, vigorless copium:
Estrogen is an anti-inflammatory stress hormone: it increases local water retention. This increases local bloodflow and possibly decalcification. It's what happens in the long term -- which is what happened to me, and most others. Many people on mainstream estrogenic protocols experience a reversal of results after a year or more. If you already have an excellent metabolism, I'm sure you can resist a lot of stressors and chronic estrogen application. I don't believe I ever heard Danny or Ray say the estrogenic process doesn't yield hair growth, but that long term they are toxic and don't fix the underlying condition. Chronically elevated estrogen WILL lower metabolism, and with it temperature and bloodflow in various tissues in the body.
In, I believe minoxidil, one of the metabolites is actually functionally like epitestosterone (same as spironolactone) -- something the body wants to convert testosterone to, in hair follicle locations, but what the impaired metabolism blocks. In this case it's not actually the function of estrogen.
Courtesy of Elephanto on RPF:
"An high IGF1/IGFBP-3 ratio is predictive of baldness. Estrogen increases IGF-1 and inhibits IGFBP-3.
Increasing IGF-1 by a single standard deviation increases balding risks by 31%. Increasing IGFBP-3 by a single standard deviation decreases balding risks by 38%.
https://www.mcgill.ca/pollak-lab/fi...ing_plasma_insulin_like_growth_factor_1_0.pdf
Estradiol, progesterone, and transforming growth factor alpha regulate insulin-like growth factor binding protein-3 (IGFBP3) expression in mouse en... - PubMed - NCBI
In these two studies, they find High Estrogen and Cortisol in balding men :
Hormonal basis of male and female androgenic alopecia: clinical relevance. - PubMed - NCBIHormonal parameters in androgenetic hair loss in the male. - PubMed - NCBI
The cascade often starts before Estrogen. Endotoxins and/or Serotonin promote chronically high Cortisol which promotes Estrogen synthesis. Cortisol promotes DHT. DHEA-S which is significantly higher in balding men is a marker of stress. Inflammatory cytokines and prostaglandins also induce aromatase expression and estrogen synthesis.
Serum elevation of dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate associated with male pattern baldness in young men. - PubMed - NCBI
Acute and chronic stress increase DHEAS concentrations in rhesus monkeys
Zinc, which is anti-estrogenic, anti-inflammatory, anti-bacterial, anti-cortisol and inhibits Nitric Oxide is significantly lower in all types of hair loss, including male pattern baldness.
Analysis of Serum Zinc and Copper Concentrations in Hair Loss
http://www.ijdvl.com/article.asp?is...ssue=6;spage=741;epage=741;aulast=Aiempanakit"
Game, Set, OP sacrifices his nuts in a tragic vanity accident, Match.
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Also, explain where and how Hans Amato has left the Peaty paradigm. There has been disagreement within the bioenergetic sphere of how impactful CICO is to sustained weightloss. he practices CICO to yield results. Peat himself supported CICO so this is no problem. That’s the only Significant diversion I know of
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@xeliex said in I have proof of dozens of guys regrowing from "it's over" levels of bald with high pufa diets and pro-nitric oxide things:
Bro, I sense a lot of anger and hate. Although I don't have super intelligent opinions on the cases you presented, we do see good results with peating on hair. I also wouldn't call Hans a non-Peater. Yes, he does few things that are not fully peaty but his general view on health still aligns.
This guy from Hans group showed his results in such a short time with the following routine...
"Gut health - ALA, bone broth, berberine, l-ReuterI
Topical - copper peptide, whipped beef tallow (it’s my moisturiser but used it topically)
Dermaroller - 5 min a day"Some of your questions remain valid though and I'd like to see things like that in the Peatosphere.
In general in the health and fitness scene, there are always countless ways to reach a goal and goals are reached with differing and opposing methods that do not make sense for dogmatists. In that, I hear you brother. But we have to acknowledge the triple power of placebo, drastic change, and confounding variables. You won't see me embracing PUFAs after seeing guys regrow hair while eating PUFA.
Cheers
Which online forum is that pic from? His regimen has me very curious. It's the 2nd one I've seen recently wherein the individual frequently (almost daily) microneedles and gotten fantastic results.
Here's another. He also used vinegar, an exfoliant brush, and believe it or not coffee (smothered it in his scalp for the caffeine). The results speak for themselves.
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@JtheDreamer personally, i’ve concluded that these folks with simple success with a random good thing, already had a decent local metabolism. Most of the folks with successful hair regrowth, anecdotally appear low-body fat. Significant Body fat is the estrogen organ. The fatty acids in tallow do great things for glucose oxidation (and so does aspirin obviously), but for many people, there are far more drastic needs to restore metabolism in compromised areas like a balding scalp. With that said, i love all testimonies and it should be researched in greater depth!
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@JtheDreamer testo nation or men elite by Hans Amoto
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@LetTheRedeemed said in I have proof of dozens of guys regrowing from "it's over" levels of bald with high pufa diets and pro-nitric oxide things:
@JtheDreamer personally, i’ve concluded that these folks with simple success with a random good thing, already had a decent local metabolism. Most of the folks with successful hair regrowth, anecdotally appear low-body fat. Significant Body fat is the estrogen organ. The fatty acids in tallow do great things for glucose oxidation (and so does aspirin obviously), but for many people, there are far more drastic needs to restore metabolism in compromised areas like a balding scalp. With that said, i love all testimonies and it should be researched in greater depth!
"Appear low body fat" is somewhat of a superficial observation though.
Doctors like Sean O'Mara are doing great work bringing to light that visceral fat (particularly built up around organs) are where estrogenic and inflammatory issues are often mounting.
So it's not always visibly obvious to the eye when looking at someone.
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@JtheDreamer this was intended as a small portion of my point not intended to be a catchall (even average) problem for all overweight or otherwise unhealthy people, but 50 lbs of excess body fat is pretty straight forward.