Meals and BM
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Can anyone comment on causes of BMs happening quickly after eating a meal?
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@Corngold said in Meals and BM:
Can anyone comment on causes of BMs happening quickly after eating a meal?
From a search with Google IA:
"BM" is a common abbreviation for bowel movement. Having a bowel movement quickly after a meal is often due to the normal gastrocolic reflex, an automatic digestive process that stimulates the bowels to make way for new food. While this reflex is normal, frequent and intense responses, diarrhea, or other symptoms after eating could indicate a condition like irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), an intestinal inflammatory condition, or an allergic reaction, and warrant a doctor's visit.
Symptoms of IBS:
If you have Irritable Bowel Syndrome, you might experience diarrhea after eating.
Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD):
These are chronic inflammatory conditions of the digestive tract that can cause abdominal pain, bloating, and changes in bowel habits after eating.
Allergic Reactions:
Certain foods can trigger an allergic response, leading to symptoms like diarrhea after eating.
Other Gastric Symptoms:
Pay attention if you have additional stomach-related symptoms like intense pain or persistent changes in your bowel movements. E.g. stones (lithiasis) due to an excess oxalates from nuts, spinach, rhubarb, etc.
Comment (LucH):
Need precision with time-period, frequency and circumstances. Limited to a type of food or sth particular, like stress or change in supplements, like magnesium or probiotics?
NB: "Normal" means there is a physical cause. A reaction due to a stimulus. The problem arises when sth has changed in the tolerance ... -
Shifting fluid balance @Corngold, I think. At that point the effect on peristalsis will depend on almost everything in the preceding 72 hours (at least). Because a 'movement' also depends on distal intestinal contents and composition at that moment. Urinary frequency and composition is also closely related.
Exchange of fluid and ions across 'compartmental' membranes is a big ticket item.
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@Corngold There's the gastrocolic reflex which triggers from distention of the stomach and it makes you poop after meals.
Or do you mean more urgent insta-pooping after eating?
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@Korven often it's just before finishing a meal, I get up and go to the bathroom. I just wonder sometimes why it's so rapid, and if that's a good sign. I don't take more than 5 min in the bathroom anyways, so that's not an issue. Maybe something is going "right" then, because I just remember in the past eating dinner or breakfast and basically having sluggish response.
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@Corngold I generally think it's a good sign, e.g. having a BM after breakfast. It's not that the food you eat is physically pushing out the old stuff, it's an autonomic reflex that migrates food out of the colon which is why it happens so fast. At least if you want to believe the textbook medicine explanation hehe.
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@ThinPicking said in Meals and BM:
Urinary frequency and composition is also closely related.
Ok. My suspicion is there's a SIBO thing going on. Like the other day it was diarrhea. Might be stress and bottled anger, too, I'm not sure. If it was SIBO, would it make sense to reduce sugar?
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@Korven
Interesting. I drink coffee obv so sometimes that's enough but at dinner I was getting sort of annoyed because I can't sit for a long period. idk lol. -
@Corngold That does sound that something might be a little off if you can't finish your dinner meal without semi-pooping your pants. Especially if it's diarrhea like consistency
Not sure if this is a great long-term strategy, but whenever my digestion has been wonky in the past antibiotics tends to work extremely well. Especially macrolides like azithromycin since these both lower bacterial load and reduce intestinal inflammation.
Good luck with the pooping!
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@Corngold said in Meals and BM:
Like the other day it was diarrhea.
@ThinPicking said in Meals and BM:
the effect on peristalsis will depend on almost everything in the preceding 72 hours (at least). Because a 'movement' also depends on distal intestinal contents and composition at that moment.
Commence strange and embarrassing self experiments.
@Corngold said in Meals and BM:
If it was SIBO, would it make sense to reduce sugar?
Or up salt. Bacterial phenomena's probably all relative too.
@Corngold said in Meals and BM:
Might be stress and bottled anger
Valid, could be.
@ThinPicking said in Hypertension Allows Harmful Immune Cell Infiltration of the Brain:
what if the autonomic nervous system is responsive to context in formation.
What's really in a diet.
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Idk maybe it's a good thing. My dogs do it too.
I'm not so fortunate. -
@Korven trust me, not the topic I wanted to post about but it is generally pretty important. What do you think about abdominal bloating too? I think it may be SIBO. I don't eat carrots daily, but feel as if I get enough fiber and quite a bit of fruit and sugar. It may be too much.
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@Corngold Yes it could be SIBO. Or maybe you are getting too much of the "wrong fibre" or some other compound in your diet that is causing the bloating. For instance some people have a hard time digesting fructose and fructans found in garlic and onion and wheat.
I am really no expert on SIBO and it seems very individual how to best tackle this issue. Antibiotics have always given me good results, but often the postive effects wear off over time. I think figuring out which foods are ok, and which ones are not, is really important and that depends on individual sensitivities/allergies, nutrient deficiencies, gut microbiome, etc...
