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    Mysterious gallbladder disease - can't digest fat for no apparent reason

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    • BearWithMeB
      BearWithMe @CrumblingCookie
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      @CrumblingCookie Oh, that's brilliant. I like this idea a lot. Thank you very much!

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      • BearWithMeB
        BearWithMe @BearWithMe
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        Is it possible that I'm disrupting my peristaltis by eating too often (every 90 minutes or so)?

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          irichard.will
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          Try eating strawberrys.
          Whenever i get constipated, feeling bloated, and feeling as if the food is not being properly digested i eat strawberry.
          I don't know how or why but it helps a lot.
          I just smash a bunch of strawberry with sugar.
          Half a cup of strawberry with two tablespoon of sugar.
          Who knows it might help you.
          And i think that lemon, orange or vinegar might make it worse - in my experience.

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          • BearWithMeB
            BearWithMe
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            Is it possible that I'm disrupting my peristalsis by eating too much fiber?

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            • BearWithMeB
              BearWithMe
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              Calprotectin: 27,78 ug/g (ref. range 0,00 - 50,00)

              Candida albicans positive
              Candida krusei negative
              Candida glabrata negative
              Candida dubliniensis negative
              Candida parapsilosis negative
              Candida tropicalis negative
              Candida lusitaniae negative

              Giardia lamblia negative
              Entamoeba histolytica negative
              Cryptosporidium spp. negative
              Blastocystis hominis negative
              Dientamoeba fragilis negative
              Cyclospora cayetanensis negative

              Campylobacter spp. negative
              Yersinia enterocolitica negative

              The PCR results doesn't show quantity. Apparently having some C. albicans in digestive tract is normal? Should I assume there is an overgrowth? I have been using corticosteroids for asthma from 1996 to 2009.

              I'm struggling to find any literature on oral dosing of borax. Is 1/4 to 1/2 tsp a day a reasonable dose? Would you provide some guidance in this regard, please? I'm also trying to obtain a prescription for Nystatin.

              My digestion got significantly worse in past months. Reflux is so bad that my spit is dark brown and the constant nausea is almost unbearable.

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                user2 @BearWithMe
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                @BearWithMe what do you eat these days?

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                • BearWithMeB
                  BearWithMe @user2
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                  @user2 Oats and meat. Added a bit of glucose powder recently, to make the oats more palatable and possibly for some health benefits

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                    user2 @BearWithMe
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                    @BearWithMe said in Mysterious gallbladder disease - can't digest fat for no apparent reason:

                    @user2 Oats and meat. Added a bit of glucose powder recently, to make the oats more palatable and possibly for some health benefits

                    did you try differents types of fat sources, avocado, nuts, beef fat, lamb fat,eggs, olives, if yes, same effects from any of these sources, or it vary?

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                    • BearWithMeB
                      BearWithMe @user2
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                      @user2 Haven't had most of these foods in very long time, I'm not sure I can answer your question. I think fat source / type doesn't matter that much but I'm not sure.

                      Solid fat seems to digest significantly better than liquid fat, though. When I eat lard, tallow or coconut oil, I always make sure it is as cold as possible.

                      Liquid fat mixed with other stuff is the worst. Last time I had homogenized milk, it caused agony so bad I'd rather die of hunger than touching milk ever again. But any liquid fat mixed with small particles of other stuff causes similar reaction.

                      Liquid fat on pasta = okay-ish in small quantities
                      Liquid fat in mashed potatoes or porridge = agony

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                      • BearWithMeB
                        BearWithMe
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                        I should probably say that I would not desribe this as gallbladder disease anymore. Sugars and carbs cause almost the same symptoms as fat. Protein doesn't cause obvious symptoms even in high quantities but I probably can't digest it either. Everything is passing through undigested.

                        I called it "gallbladder disease" because the discomfort is often felt in upper right part of the abdomen

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                          user2 @BearWithMe
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                          @BearWithMe said in Mysterious gallbladder disease - can't digest fat for no apparent reason:

                          I should probably say that I would not desribe this as gallbladder disease anymore. Sugars and carbs cause almost the same symptoms as fat. Protein doesn't cause obvious symptoms even in high quantities but I probably can't digest it either. Everything is passing through undigested.

                          I called it "gallbladder disease" because the discomfort is often felt in upper right part of the abdomen

                          i suggest retry different fat sources such avocado, olives, subcutanous fat from lamb, hazelnuts, macadamia and see if they have same effects or different. have you tryed fruits, if yes wich ones? how do you feel from sunlight exposure?

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                            Peatful
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                            It might seem too obvious
                            Or
                            Just the last thing you are thinking?

                            But

                            The diet you are on now
                            It is NOT working for you

                            I would step back
                            Pull back
                            And start from scratch

                            No supplements
                            Easy to digest foods (ie mashed potatoes, stews, jasmine rice puddings etc)

                            You’re body is screaming for change…

                            The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                            SD

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                            • KorvenK
                              Korven
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                              Your diet looks dreadful @BearWithMe

                              I understand that this present diet of yours is because you cut out all the offending foods -- but at the same time I think something has to change for you to heal. In my experience oatmeal in large quantities is guaranteed to wreck gut health and your diet is also severely lacking in calcium and other important nutrients.

                              Are there any other food you can tolerate besides oats and meat?

                              You wrote in a previous post that rice noodles are okay. Can you eat lean meat, rice noodles and super well-cooked broccoli? That would be a better staple meal than oats and lean meat

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                                CrumblingCookie @BearWithMe
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                                @BearWithMe said in Mysterious gallbladder disease - can't digest fat for no apparent reason:

                                I'm struggling to find any literature on oral dosing of borax. Is 1/4 to 1/2 tsp a day a reasonable dose?

                                1/2 a teaspoon would be about 2.5ml*1.73g=4.33g borax, *0.11=475mg of boron. That's terribly much. Won't cause any lasting harm, though. IME a maximum of 30-40mg of boron per dosing was alright. 2-3 times a day. That's about 300mg of borax per dose. One can also just do a third or a tenth of that. Always start low.

                                Sad to read that your digestion has been on further decline : /.

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                                • BearWithMeB
                                  BearWithMe @Peatful
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                                  @Peatful This idea definitely crossed my mind. The problem is, pretty much any food is causing similar or even worse symptoms. But I will replace oats with something else (rice?) immediatelly because I can't eat any more oats even if I wanted to.

                                  @user2 Fruits were my primary source of energy from 2014 to 2024. Oranges, grapes, bananas, plums... Have stopped eating fruits because they destroyed my teeth. Also, I think they stimulate metabolic rate too much when eaten in large quantities

                                  Sunlight feels very good for a couple of minutes, then it causes stress reaction (high pulse, palpipations, shortness of breath etc)

                                  @Korven I agree something must change. Not sure if rice is the answer, though? Rice is almost devoid of nutrients. Oats, while by no means complete, have very good mineral profile. Interestingly enough, I've had intense cravings for rice noodles recently.

                                  Whey protein powder and fruits doesn't cause obvious digestive symptoms in any quantity, but have other problems so they are not an option. Not sure what else to try. Corn maybe? I've had good experience with corn in the past

                                  @CrumblingCookie Thank you. Appreciate this very much

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                                  • BioEclecticB
                                    BioEclectic
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                                    Have read through most of the thread, am hoping you find a quick and proper solution.

                                    I did not see mention of bone broth, collagen or gelatin. Their amino acid profiles are similar and have benefits for the gut. Bone broth with simple and easy to digest ingredients would also be an additional food source.

                                    And please excuse if it has .. but I also saw no mention of B1 Thiamine. A recent study i read also mentioned B5, B6 and B7 for fatty acid oxidation, metabolism & synthesis: Vitamin B, Role of Gut Microbiota and Gut Health (Satrio Wibowo and Almira Pramadhani).

                                    Hope this helps!

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                                    • KorvenK
                                      Korven @BearWithMe
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                                      @BearWithMe said in Mysterious gallbladder disease - can't digest fat for no apparent reason:

                                      @Korven I agree something must change. Not sure if rice is the answer, though? Rice is almost devoid of nutrients. Oats, while by no means complete, have very good mineral profile. Interestingly enough, I've had intense cravings for rice noodles recently.

                                      Whey protein powder and fruits doesn't cause obvious digestive symptoms in any quantity, but have other problems so they are not an option. Not sure what else to try. Corn maybe? I've had good experience with corn in the past

                                      While rice has less nutrients, I still think it's superior to oatmeal since it doesn't have irritating, bacteria feeding fibre, high amounts of nickel, gluten proteins, etc. For healthy people oatmeal is fine but for people with dysbiosis or poor digestion they are a very suspect food. Interestingly I also had steatorrhea back when I ate a lot of oats. And I was depressed.

                                      In general I believe that gut health is much more important than having a nutrient dense diet. Also you are not properly digesting and assimilating nutrients when your gut is inflamed, so in the short-term the objective should be to just find the least offensive foods, and when that is taken care of, you can worry about the overall nutrient composition of the diet.

                                      Yes I think corn is good. Can you find a Mexican restaurant which sells 100% corn tortillas?

                                      If you just switch the oatmeal out for rice noodles and corn tortillas I believe you will feel so much better.

                                      What about eggs, do you tolerate those? Eggs are very nutrient dense and good for gut repair.

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                                        foxgelb @BearWithMe
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                                        @BearWithMe in my experience oats, rice, potatoes are harder to digest. Believe it or not I had most success with refined wheat as a starch. Pasta, no problem. Bread also fine. If you have not tried it is worth a shot in my opinion.

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