Le sex vs semen retention
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@water-fire Primitive consciousness, I guess. With flaws but mostly right.
SR must graduate from being a "based" view of the world to a Correct one. Which was the process Ray did.
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I've been doing something like karezza recently, ~30 minutes of rhythmic sex without ejaculating, having the woman cum as she wants. The effect on the mood is dramatically better than ejaculating, afterwards. Even in the days following, at least for me. Worth trying.
I researched the subject a little bit more. The term "Male Continence" popped up in the context of the Oneida Community of the 1840s in the US. I kind of like this term better. It's not about "retaining" to me (which has an aura of tension or stress, linguistically) but more about "not expelling".
@Ecstatic_Hamster does your wife "practice" non-orgasmic sex with you, or does she cum as she likes? Some posts seem to talk about the former as being higher. I'm not so sure though, the female orgasm seems very different.
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@Rah2woot How often do you ejaculate now? Are the effects continuous or plateu after x days?
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@PrinceTrebata I've only been doing this for a little while. SR broadly for maybe a month now. Karezza sex for a few days. "Streaks" up to two weeks.
I would say that I'm still on the uptrend overall.
It's cliche to make a list of "benefits" but I don't really think that's the right way of looking at it. Similar to "retention". It seems like this is more of what life is meant to be like rather than some kind of reward for self-restraint.
Most blatantly it feels like my dopamine levels are through the roof, in a good way, everything is more colorful, interesting, engaging, I can think about more things at once and faster. It seems like a very powerful metabolic stimulant and therefore makes most aspects of life simply more and better. "Semen Retention Guys" don't have the theory of bioenergetics so they resort to weird syllogisms that include weird hypothyroid dudes like David Goggins to explain this.
I'm also seeing some more general androgenic traits.
I'm interested to see if I can lose some weight from what seems to be the resulting increase in metabolism.
Anyways. Not seeing a plateau yet. I almost think that you would ideally not ejaculate ever unless you're trying to father children but I could be wrong.
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I've yet to record a temperature under 37.2C while "retaining" BTW. More people should probably measure that to understand how it works.
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@Rah2woot said in Le sex vs semen retention:
I think most of the seemingly invulnerable males that you meet in life are doing mild SR. They're not talking or thinking about it though, counting the days, they're just not doing the uneducated thing of ejaculating for no reason.
Very true. Staying full and having sex more often with a little edging feels much better for me and my wife. She prefers to stay clean anyway so I do pull out when I occasionally cum .
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how does one even go on for 30 minutes without orgasm. Can you point me in the right direction @Rah2woot
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Also keep in mind that many of the nofap/semen retention enthusiasts possibly have some form of POIS (post orgasmic illness syndrome) which reduces once they abstain
So they associate the return to a healthy POIS-free state as "benefits" when those without POIS feel that way all the time
A lot of POISers found that anti-inflammatories/anti-histamines help, some think it's a form of mast cell activation syndrome in some cases
But there are many clusters with their own causes and treatments
I wonder how many nofappers/semen retainers have some form of POIS not being aware not everyone has it
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I have pois now. Even when I didn’t have pois though and practiced retention there were many benefits to it, up until around the three month mark. I believe retention increases androgen sensitivity.
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I have done a subreddit post that has a lot of help for you if you want to try this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/karezza/comments/169vdk4/ive_been_practicing_karezza_for_over_10_years_ask/
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Intimacy doesn't have to be sex
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@heyman said in Le sex vs semen retention:
Intimacy doesn't have to be sex
It depend the person state, some people dont have a open heart area, only sex area energetically open due to diet and/or environnement
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@Maximalus said in Le sex vs semen retention:
Also keep in mind that many of the nofap/semen retention enthusiasts possibly have some form of POIS (post orgasmic illness syndrome) which reduces once they abstain
So they associate the return to a healthy POIS-free state as "benefits" when those without POIS feel that way all the time
A lot of POISers found that anti-inflammatories/anti-histamines help, some think it's a form of mast cell activation syndrome in some cases
But there are many clusters with their own causes and treatments
I wonder how many nofappers/semen retainers have some form of POIS not being aware not everyone has it
Semen emission affect everyone, aint necessary negative, can be positive
