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      user1 @lobotomize
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      @lobotomize said in dht and creativity:

      @user1 Posting health advice, reading studies, and summarizing them, in my opinion, isn’t creative. Creating theories and hypotheses is creative, but it’s hard to track their origin and determine whether they’re just a copy paste. Humor, however, is always creative: it requires crafting the right sentence for the right context at the right time

      "Creativity" and humor is 0 percent necessary to post infos that improve the health of the greatest number of people, a person can feel"creative" and be perceive as such by some people by posting stuffs, yet the person as little to no impact on people health.

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        lobotomize @ethan
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        @ethan 1. Pretty predictable, since it has been researched thoroughly: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=tianeptine

        1. Bipolar disorder is caused by completely different factors. Guessing shit without backing it up won’t help anyone, it’ll just clutter this thread with spam.

        2. Allopreg sedates you
          Prog feminises you

        @user1 Did you even read my reply. You quoted it, but your comprehension of it appears to have been limited

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          ThinPicking @lobotomize
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          It's not a lie per se lobo and I only have a caution. The literature is consistent with your spin and even a more blunt or blatent pioid would probably have a biphasic clarity on its downside for the naive user. But the formal or informal case reports for tia are not a pleasant read.

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            user1 @lobotomize
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            @lobotomize i did understood everything you wrote, you didnt fully understand what i wrote or what was the point. Creativity doesnt matter to help people by posting about health, so the X users you mentionned being non "creative" is not relevant to whever or not they have impact on people health, and thats what matter. Even if their posts is copy past and 0 "creativity", it doesnt make it any less impactfull than"creative" posts and shit posting.

            If "creativity" issnt associated with higher well being long term for you, and/or the people you talk to, it has 0 value

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              lobotomize @ThinPicking
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              @ThinPicking

              https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=tianeptine one step foward two steps backwards, keep it steady now

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                ThinPicking @lobotomize
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                I'm content with the prior literature review, thank you.

                @lobotomize said in dht and creativity:

                Take ****, and you will discover what true creativity means

                You could just let it hurt for a while, eat some ice cream and talk to your pals.

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                  lobotomize @user1
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                  @user1 You are completely missing the distinction between the control group and the variable group.
                  Hans and Boost Your Biology are the baseline for long term DHT maximization. Result? They rarely shitpost or present novel ideas/perspectives . Their content is purely functional and robotic.

                  Cynomel and Al Haidut are different. usually, they are full of novel ideas/perspectives and humor. The point you are ignoring is that specifically during their high dht experiments, that spark vanished. They morphed into robots.

                  I am not critiquing their "impact on health," I am using their sudden lack of wit as a biomarker for cognitive rigidity. You are trying to turn this into a moral argument about "helping people," but the point went right over your red dotted forehead.

                  Stop derailing the thread just because you can't process a variable

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                  • lobotomizeL
                    lobotomize @ThinPicking
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                    @ThinPicking I’m talking about the upregulation of isocitrate dehydrogenase and the normalization of the mitochondrial proteome, actual bioenergetic benefits that enhance brain functionality.

                    I didn't even say it has to be used long term, I said you can use it to get a taste of true creativity. Suggesting someone "let it hurt" and eat sugar when I am presenting a tool to improve creativity with minimal side effects, backed by data, is peak midwit behavior

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                      Kilgore @ThinPicking
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                      @ThinPicking Yes. I am all out of milk, pomegranate juice, sugar and snickers bars.

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                        user1 @lobotomize
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                        @lobotomize said in dht and creativity:

                        @user1 You are completely missing the distinction between the control group and the variable group.
                        Hans and Boost Your Biology are the baseline for long term DHT maximization. Result? They rarely shitpost or present novel ideas/perspectives . Their content is purely functional and robotic.

                        Hans doesnt sound robotic. You do sound very robotic on most of your posts. Functionality is optimal.

                        Cynomel and Al Haidut are different. usually, they are full of novel ideas/perspectives and humor. The point you are ignoring is that specifically during their high dht experiments, that spark vanished. They morphed into robots.

                        I understood this.

                        I am not critiquing their "impact on health," I am using their sudden lack of wit as a biomarker for cognitive rigidity. You are trying to turn this into a moral argument about "helping people," but the point went right over your red dotted forehead.

                        It aint necessary cognitive rigidity, can just be being more focus on sharing relevants infos with pratical values rather than clowning or trying to novelty max for the sake of it. It aint turning it into a moral argument at all, well being is feeling based. You just took drug, you glazing "creativity" and saying these DHT users tendencies are suboptimal, when they arnt. Whigger you just in a robot mania episode from drug making you think you relevant when you aint on what we discussed, plus you hating now, you are top 2 robot poster(free to you to robotmax). I understood all, just saying its not relevant, glazing"creativity" if it isnt associated with higher well being, has 0 value. I dont have a red doted forehead and i aint hindu, so stop projecting and keep your retarded hater unbased insult attempt

                        Stop derailing the thread just because you can't process a variable

                        Lay off the drug perhaps you will have better discernement.

                        @lobotomize said in Sleep help:

                        @Elza Inhale some sauerkraut intranasally.

                        No hate, simply exchanging about the "creativity" feeling you say you get from tianeptine, having tendency to try to jokemax even when there is 0 context for it, therefore it spark little to no fun, isnt" creativity", and you could legit consider this cognitive rigidity

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                          ThinPicking @lobotomize
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                          @lobotomize said in dht and creativity:

                          I’m talking about the upregulation of isocitrate dehydrogenase and the normalization of the mitochondrial proteome, actual bioenergetic benefits that enhance brain functionality.

                          I'm definitely not creative enough to know that's definitely acrobatics.

                          minimal side effects

                          I didn't say don't knock yourself out.

                          peak midwit behavior

                          Thank you.

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                            lobotomize @user1
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                            @user1

                            cognitive Rigidity: A state where the brain becomes overly logical, utilitarian, and unable to process nuance, humor, or novelty

                            Hans doesnt sound robotic. You do sound very robotic on most of your posts. Functionality is optimal.

                            You are saying no u on something i never said. i never said he sounds robotic i said he "rarely shitposts or presents novel ideas/perspectives"

                            I had a seizure reading the rest.

                            From what I understood, you are saying new thoughts aren't needed and echo chambering yourself and your audience with the same repetitive "practical info" is good.

                            You are admitting that you view the world through a strictly utilitarian, robotic lens. You cannot conceive of value outside of "practical info." By arguing that creativity doesn't matter

                            The irony is that you are following the advice of Ray Peat, a man who literally built this entire bioenergetic field by creating novel hypotheses that defied the "accepted functional talk" of his time.

                            If Peat had your "robotic functionality" mindset, he would have just regurgitated the standard medical guidelines, and this forum wouldn't even exist.

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                              sunsunsun @lobotomize
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                              @lobotomize its because your attempts at humor are unfunny and cringe , you think youre being creative but youre just being kind of unlikeable to actual sense of humor peoples

                              you are esl tho so its less bad but its still dumb

                              your attempt at racial insult about bindis was weird and also cringe and gay

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                                user1 @lobotomize
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                                @lobotomize said in dht and creativity:

                                @user1

                                cognitive Rigidity: A state where the brain becomes overly logical, utilitarian, and unable to process nuance, humor, or novelty

                                Hans doesnt sound robotic. You do sound very robotic on most of your posts. Functionality is optimal.

                                You are saying no u on something i never said. i never said he sounds robotic i said he "rarely shitposts or presents novel ideas/perspectives"

                                You said their(including hans)content is purely functional.and robotic, reread. "Sound" i refered to his posts.

                                I had a seizure reading the rest.

                                From what I understood, you are saying new thoughts aren't needed and echo chambering yourself and your audience with the same repetitive "practical info" is good.

                                Yes, Novelty in it self has 0 value if it doesnt lead to.higher well being for the person and/or others. If the répétitive pratical infos lead to higher well being for you and the greatest number of people, they are good.

                                You are admitting that you view the world through a strictly utilitarian, robotic lens. You cannot conceive of value outside of "practical info." By arguing that creativity doesn't matter

                                The irony is that you are following the advice of Ray Peat, a man who literally built this entire bioenergetic field by creating novel hypotheses that defied the "accepted functional talk" of his time.

                                I dont follow any of Ray advices, peace to him. Novelty doesnt determine if someone ideas are valuable, net positive impact long term does.

                                If Peat had your "robotic functionality" mindset, he would have just regurgitated the standard medical guidelines, and this forum wouldn't even exist.

                                You are top2 robot sounding users on the forum, stop projecting, being pro net positive impact on people well being isnt robotic. If some Ray ideas are valuable, it aint because they are novel, its because they can have net positive impact when applyed IRL, as simple as that. People that clownmax the most can often be some of the most stressed unhealthy people there is. Focusing on "creativity" indépendantly of other factors is bad.

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                                  lobotomize @sunsunsun
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                                  @user1 said in dht and creativity:

                                  I dont follow any of Ray advices, peace to him. Novelty doesnt determine if someone ideas are valuable, net positive impact long term does.

                                  @user1 said in dht and creativity:

                                  . If some Ray ideas are valuable, it aint because they are novel

                                  guess what ideas stem from

                                  @user1 said in dht and creativity:

                                  You are top2 robot sounding users on the forum, stop projecting, being pro net positive impact on people well being isnt robotic. If some Ray ideas are valuable, it aint because they are novel, its because they can have net positive impact when applyed IRL, as simple as that. People that clownmax the most can often be some of the most stressed unhealthy people there is. Focusing on "creativity" indépendantly of other factors is bad.

                                  @sunsunsun said in dht and creativity:

                                  ts because your attempts at humor are unfunny and cringe , you think youre being creative but youre just being kind of unlikeable to actual sense of humor peoples

                                  you are esl tho so its less bad but its still dumb

                                  Ad hominem arguments are great when you don't know what you are talking about. Have I ever insisted I am the peak human with peak creativity?

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                                    user1 @lobotomize
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                                    @lobotomize said in dht and creativity:

                                    @user1 said in dht and creativity:

                                    I dont follow any of Ray advices, peace to him. Novelty doesnt determine if someone ideas are valuable, net positive impact long term does.

                                    @user1 said in dht and creativity:

                                    . If some Ray ideas are valuable, it aint because they are novel

                                    guess what ideas stem from

                                    Meaning aint clear

                                    @user1 said in dht and creativity:

                                    You are top2 robot sounding users on the forum, stop projecting, being pro net positive impact on people well being isnt robotic. If some Ray ideas are valuable, it aint because they are novel, its because they can have net positive impact when applyed IRL, as simple as that. People that clownmax the most can often be some of the most stressed unhealthy people there is. Focusing on "creativity" indépendantly of other factors is bad.

                                    @sunsunsun said in dht and creativity:

                                    ts because your attempts at humor are unfunny and cringe , you think youre being creative but youre just being kind of unlikeable to actual sense of humor peoples

                                    you are esl tho so its less bad but its still dumb

                                    Ad hominem arguments are great when you don't know what you are talking about. Have I ever insisted I am the peak human with peak creativity?

                                    O ad hominem arguments from me. You are on drug. No one said or implyed you said you peak human with peak creativity, you simply said "take tiaptenine if you want to know what true creativity is" you took it,, so you think you zre experiencing true creativity.

                                    I suggest stop yapping, just let the drug effects wear off and reread later possibly.

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                                      lobotomize @user1
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                                      @user1
                                      Meaning aint clear

                                      Really requires an ultra computer to decipher the meaning, doesn't it?
                                      Let me spell it out for you: Ideas stem from Novelty.

                                      Every "practical" health knowledge you learned started as a creative, novel hypothesis that defied the status quo. You cannot have an idea without the creativity that generated it.

                                      @user1 said in dht and creativity:

                                      You are on drug

                                      I suggested tianeptine as a means to temporarily raise dopamine and lower serotonin to access a specific state.

                                      If you could read anything other than brainrot, you would have seen me mention that I stopped taking most supplements and nootropics a while ago

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                                        user1 @lobotomize
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                                        @lobotomize said in dht and creativity:

                                        @user1
                                        Meaning aint clear

                                        Really requires an ultra computer to decipher the meaning, doesn't it?
                                        Let me spell it out for you: Ideas stem from Novelty.

                                        You are trying to condescending max when what you said below is totally false, what make you act drugged or instable out of the sudden, before you were just robot maxed

                                        Every "practical" health knowledge you learned started as a creative, novel hypothesis that defied the status quo. You cannot have an idea without the creativity that generated it.

                                        No it didnt at all, i just did stuffs, ate stuffs, based on instincts/do what i like or want to do, and felt effects, i suggest things based on the effects i felt.

                                        It 0 percent require hypothesis that defied the status quo, why are you brutally stuck on this even when its false like this statement above, what did you do?

                                        @user1 said in dht and creativity:

                                        You are on drug

                                        I suggested tianeptine as a means to temporarily raise dopamine and lower serotonin to access a specific state.

                                        If you could read anything other than brainrot, you would have seen me mention that I stopped taking most supplements and nootropics a while ago

                                        You sound drugged, lower discernement than usual, and force joke maxing wich match your claims a
                                        bout tiaptenine, assuming you are still on drug is a good assumption. Are you warm maxing right now,, or do you feel.neutral.or cold?

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                                        • sunsunsunS
                                          sunsunsun @lobotomize
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                                          @lobotomize you posted about creativity and recently have started making unfunny jokes so I made assumption these two things are linked and you think you're being creative on tianpetine or something, idk. just going off the information you present. the jokes are not enjoyable or funny to me to read, and mayhaps since nobody including me bothered to tell you this, you went on thinking you are being funny with no feedback because people are just being polite in not responding about it to tell you its not funny

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                                            sunsunsun @user1
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                                            @user1 brutally stuck = unable to even lowkey acknowledge something said was incorrect

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